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roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 09, 2014 at 1:24 PM / IP Logged  
Looking for a bit of advice – recently finished installing a Viper 5204v with the idatalink ADS-AL(DL)-GM1 (flashed as necessary) on my 2003 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4. Installation / wiring connections are indicated below.
Everything (remote starting /dome lights / parking lights / accessories, etc) works fine – the one issue I have is that the driver’s door unlocks when using / activating the remote start.
I have programmed the Viper security features as follows:
Menu 1 (Security) #6 – Door Lock Pulses = Single
Menu 2 (Convenience) #7 – OEM Alarm / Disarm Output = With Unlock (to be sure, if I open the door after remote starting the alarm will go off)
Menu 3 (Remote Start) #16 –Remote Start Safelock = Off (If switched to “on” both doors unlock asopposed to just the drivers door).
Anyone have any insight or a fix for this – it’s a bit unnerving.
Main Harness 6 Pin
H 1/1     Red-(+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - Ignition Switch Harness - Red - 12 Volt Constant     
H 1/2     Black-(-) CHASSIS GROUND - Suitable Ground
H 1/3     Brown - (+) SIREN OUTPUT – To Siren in Engine Compartment
H 1/4     WHITE/ Brown - PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay -Not Used
H 1/5     White -PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT - Pin B2 (Gray/Black) Brown Plug @ BCM - Gray/BLK Parking Lights (-)
H 1/6     Orange-(-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT - Not Used
Door Harness 3 Pin
1     Blue-(-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT - On idatalink Black 10 pin plug the Blue/Black Input wire goes to the Blue wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector.
2     Empty
3     Green-(-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT - On idatalink Black 10 pin plug the GREEN/ Black Input wire goes to the Green wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector.
H2 Harness - 24 Pin
H 2/1     Pink/White (-)200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/2     Blue/White (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/3     RED / White (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/4     BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT - BCM – Black Plug – Pin E
H 2/5     Dark Blue (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT - Connect to idatalink Bypass GWR Input
H 2/6     WHITE/ Black (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/7     WHITE/ Violet (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/8     ORANGE / Black (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/9     Grey (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC or NO) – Must be connected to Hood Pin
H 2/10     Blue (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR (N/O) - Not used
H 2/11     WHITE/ Blue (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT - Not Used
H 2/12     Violet/White TACHOMETER INPUT - @ Instrument Cluster – White Wire
H 2/13     BLACK/ White (-) Neutral Safety Input - Suitable ground
H 2/14     GREEN/ Black (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT - Idatalink Bypass (Brown Wire B10/4- DISARM ONLY INPUT) goes to H 2/14 Input (Factory Alarm Disarm Output)
H 2/15 Green (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT - To Bypass (Yellow/Black) Door Status Output
H 2/16     BROWN / Black (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT - BCM-Gray Plug – Black Wire
H 2/17     Pink (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/18     Violet (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT - Not Used
H 2/19     Violet/Black (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/20     Brown (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT – Must be connected to White wire At Brake Pedal
H 2/21     Violet / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT – Not Used
H 2/22     Grey/Black (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT - Not Used
H 2/23     Orange (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT – 30/40 AMP SPDT relay for Brown GMC Acc wire (see note 1 below)
H 2/24     GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT – Not Used
Remote Start (H 3) 10 Pin
H 3/1     Pink (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT – Pink wire at Ignition Switch Harness
H 3/2     RED / White (87) FLEX RELAY (+) 12V INPUT (30A Fused) – Red at Ignition Switch Harness (12V Constant)*
H 3/3     Orange (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT – Orange wire at Ignition Switch Harness
H 3/4     Violet (+) STARTER OUTPUT (Car Side of Starter Kill) - Ignition Switch Harness - Yellow (+) Car Side (cut starter wire)
H 3/5     Green (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF STARTER KILL) - Ignition Switch Harness - Yellow (+) Key Side (cut starter wire)
H 3/6     Red IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) – Red wire at Ignition Switch Harness (12V Constant)*
H 3/7     Pink/White (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT – (car side of ign, acc or starter wire) - Ignition Switch Harness - White (+) Must Be Connected as IGNITION 2 for Remote Starting – Spliced in as opposed to cutting and stubbing off.
H 3/8     Pink/Black (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT - Not Used
H 3/9     RED / Black ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) – RED / White wire at Ignition Switch Harness (12V constant)*
H 3/10 NC Empty
Note 1
Extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay for Brown ACC2 wire :
Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/23 ORANGE (-) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to Sierra Red (+12V constant) @ ignition harness through 30 Amp fuse*
Relay Pin 30 to Sierra Brown ACC2 wire @ ignition harness
Relay Pin 87a not used
*Split +12V constant (load) wires in the main ignition harness between Red and RED / White or run heavier gauge wire directly from battery and connect all 12Volt Constant loads
Bypass Harness 4 Pin
B 4/1     Blue/White GWR (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - H 2/9
B 4/2     Empty
B 4/3     Black GROUND - Suitable Ground
B 4/4     Red 12 v (+) - Ignition Switch Harness - Red (+) - 12 VOLT Constant
Bypass Harness 10 Pin
B 10/1     GREEN/ Black LOCK/ARM (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - On idatalink (Black) 10 pin plug the GREEN/ Black wire goes to the Green wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector
B 10/2     Blue/Black UNLOCK/DISARM (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - On idatalink (Black) 10 pin plug the Blue/Black wire goes to the Blue wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector
B 10/3     RED / White TRUNK (-) INPUT - Not Used
B 10/4     Brown DISARM ONLY - The brown wire goes to your GREEN/ black - FASD (Factory Alarm Shutdown Disarm) wire H2/14
B 10/5     Purple / YELLOW LEFT SLIDING DOOR - Not Used
B 10/6     PURPLE / Black RIGHT SLIDING DOOR - Not Used
B 10/7     White - Not Used
B 10/8     BLACK/ White - Not Used
B 10/9     Green - Not Used
B 10/10 PURPLE / White TACH OUTPUT – Not Used – see H2/12
Bypass Harness 3 Pin
B 3/1     Yellow/Black DOOR STATUS (-) Output - Viper Brain (H 2/15) Green Wire
B 3/2     Yellow/Red TRUNK STATUS (-) Output - Not Used
B 3/3     Yellow - Not Used
Bypass Harness 7 Pin
B 7/2     BROWN / Yellow - Not Used
B 7/3     ORANGE / Black - Not Used
B 7/4     ORANGE / White - Not Used
B 7/5     Orange     Data - OBDII #2
B 7/6     Pink/Black - Not Used
B 7/7     Pink IGNITION (+) INPUT - Viper Brain Ignition (+) Output (The Pink input wire from the bypass will connect to the Ignition 1 Output on Viper (H1/1) wire).
Thanks in advance.
-R
RoadGlide2459
roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 09, 2014 at 1:54 PM / IP Logged  
Hi Kreg,
Got it figured out (right after I started a new thread on the issue)
OEM Alarm Disarm Output (Menu 2 Convenience #7) should be set to "Remote Start Only.
After I did that everything worked fine. The drivers door does unlock momentarily, but then immediately locks after the truck starts.
Thanks again.
-R
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pentavolvo 
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Posted: April 09, 2014 at 4:57 PM / IP Logged  
Try unhooking the factory alarm disarm wire and see what happens. Otherwise you cold grab a second status wire. And have it pulse after startup and pulse the lock wire to relock the doors
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Posted: April 09, 2014 at 9:16 PM / IP Logged  
Doesn't this system have the Smart Lock feature?
It locks the door during remote start.
Menu 3, Item 16, Option 2.
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itsyuk 
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Posted: April 10, 2014 at 1:31 AM / IP Logged  
i think pentavolvo is right.
when the RS activates it pulses the factory disarm wire causing the factory alarm to do a drivers door unlock as "part one" of progressive factory unlocking.
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roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 10, 2014 at 7:49 AM / IP Logged  
Pentavolvo - thanks for the reply.
Would prefer not to disconnect the factory alarm / disarm wire as the way the system is currently wired I still have full OEM key fob functionality.
Not quite sure which "2nd Status Wire" you are referring too.
Thanks again.
-Rick
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roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 10, 2014 at 7:53 AM / IP Logged  
Smokeman1 - thanks for the reply
It does have the Smart Lock feature? However if I chose option 2 (on)both doors unlock during remote start as opposed to just the drivers door (with option 1 (default - off) selected.
Thanks again.
-Rick
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roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 10, 2014 at 9:27 AM / IP Logged  
Hi Kreg,
I spoke to soon - still having the same issue.
Have verified the W2W connection between Viper H2/4 GREEN/ Black to ADS AL-CA 10 Pin harness, Pin 4 Brown and also verified that the Viper is not set to OEM Alarm Disarm Pulses = 2 and the Door Lock Pulses is not set to Double Unlock Only.
Also tried turning Remote Start Safelock = On, however then both doors unlock as opposed to just the drivers door (when remote starting)
Not quite sure what to do at this point - I reset the Viper to factory defaults (and then programmed for the automatic trans and also the hard wired tach), but I still have the same problem.
To be sure I can still lock the truck after remote start by pressing the lock button on the key fob so it's more of a nuisance issue than anything - sure would like to figure it out though.
Thanks again for your reply.
-Rick
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roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM / IP Logged  
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know how cabin temp is reported on the Viper 5204LE (my remotes do not have a display but was under the impression that pressing the function key would cause the LED to light periodically as temp increases / decreases)
Have turned on Menu 3 #15 "Vehicle Auto Temp Report" but am not getting any indication of temp changes on my 2-way key fob.
-Rick
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roadglide2459 
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Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:46 AM / IP Logged  
Hello,
Does anyone know how cabin temp is reported on the Viper 5204LE (my remotes have LED's as opposed to a display but was under the impression that pressing the function key would cause the LED to light periodically as temp increases / decreases)
Have turned on Menu 3 #15 "Vehicle Auto Temp Report" but am not getting any indication of temp changes on my 2-way LED key fob.
-Rick
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