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Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring


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vin123 
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Posted: February 28, 2014 at 12:02 AM / IP Logged  
I just bought Dball 2 and Viper 5706v. I plan to work with a camry 2011.
This is my first car that I’m trying to install. And I need someone to verify wire connections as I go through wire diagram. Please correct me as I go through wire to wire.
First I want to prep Dball 2 wires to Viper 5706 then I’ll be talking to vehicle wire. I’m using the viper 5704 diagram since it is easier than viper 5706. I name Dball 2 wire diagram on connector 10, 12, and 14 pins as my D1, D2, and D3 and you can see picture below.
Dball 2 wires to viper 5704
     
D1/10      to     H1/2
D1/9      to      H3/1
D1/3     to     H2/5
D1/2     to     H4/1
D1/1     to      H4/3
D2/1     to      H2/2
D2/3     to     H4/1…from the Door lock, 3pin connector I name it H4
D2/4     to     H2/19
D2/5     to     H2/23
D2/6     to     H2/16
D2/10     to     pin 7 sil of obdii
D2/11      to     not sure where or what they meant by body ecu connector is?
D2/12     to     H2/17
D3/11…look like not connected?
D3/10      to     19pin headlight switch
D3/4     to     pin 4 can low of obdii
D3/3     to     pin 6 can high of obdii
Dball2 4pin d2d      to viper d2d
Thanks and appreciated
Here is the expresskit dball 2
Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring -- posted image.
and the viper 5704
Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring -- posted image.
Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring -- posted image.
Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring -- posted image.
vin123 
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Location: Minnesota, United States
Posted: February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM / IP Logged  

Anybody???  just need to double check wires connection.  it's going to be my first install..  appreciated

freqsounds 
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Posted: February 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM / IP Logged  
Are you doing D2D or W2W? If you're doing D2D, you only need the wires with the solid black lines. The dashed blue lines would be optional in D2D.
Do you also have the XKLoader2 to flash the DBALL?
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
thrue1 
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Posted: March 01, 2014 at 8:25 AM / IP Logged  
I am too installing a DBI idatalink to Viper 5706v alarm/starter. I need help in understating the 10pin connection as shown below. The 2011 camry has 2 ignition wires and 2 starter wires. I need help in understanding how to connect these too the 10pin harness in the Viper.
Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring -- posted image.
Here is what i am thinking of doing:
1 NC No Connection
NOT USED
2 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT;
NOT USED?
or Do i need to connect this to Accessory wire ( WHITE(+) and orange)? This does not make sense? as one is input and output together.
3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY;
NOT USED
4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT;
This is for the Ignition 2 wire (PINK (+).
( I know i can switch this to Accessory 2 or Starter 2 in programming , but for now I leave it as Ignition 2, so I don't have to put a relay, but maybe then I need to put a relay for starter 2.)
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT;
NOT USED?
or do i need to join with Ignition 1 wire(YEllOW (+)( this does not make sense where you have this coming and the 10 PINK (+) wire coming together. Anyways I don't think it is needed.
6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL);
(STARTER 1 and 2 wires)(YELLOW (+) and PINK (+)) cut and join together key side wires to this green wire. (Basically 2 wires joined together to this green wire) Again I don't know if I need to use a relay for the 2nd starter wire?
7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL);
(STARTER 1 and 2 wires)(YELLOW (+) and PINK (+)) cut and join together car side wire to this violet wire. I don't know if this is correct; I have read that I should use a relay for the 2nd starter wire; someone explain how if so needed.
8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT;
WHITE (+) join this Orange
9 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87;
NOT USED
10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT ;
Connect to Ignition 1 wire; BLUE (+)
Overall I am getting confused in how the 2 ignition wires need to go and the 2 starter wires. If someone can clarify that would help me a lot. I am going to use D2D, and for the idatalink I dont have to connect that may wires. The 12 volt input constant on 6pin main harness has 15 amp fuse, while the rest of fused (3 wires) on the 10pin harness have 20 amp fuse.
thrue1 
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Location: Illinois, United States
Posted: March 01, 2014 at 9:01 AM / IP Logged  
I THINK I JUST REALIZE MY MISTAKE; all these BELOW i need to connect to a Constant 12V connection.
2 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT
9 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
I think, I got the 2 ignition wires figured out, but can i just cut and join the 2 starter wires together or do i need to use relay to separate these out, if so how?
freqsounds 
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Joined: October 17, 2008
Location: Virginia, United States
Posted: March 01, 2014 at 9:31 AM / IP Logged  
Yes, all three of those wires get connected to +12V constant.
The ignition is controlled through Ignition1 and Ignition2 on the remote start. Your starter wire is a different story.
You have the Starter wire (violet) on the remote start unit. You will need a relay for the car's Starter2.
Pin 85 - Ground
Pin 86 - Starter from alarm (violet)
Pin 30 - Starter 2 on car
Pin 87 - +12V constant - Make sure you install a fuse. 20A should be sufficient.
Never tie both of the starter wires together.
You don't need a DBALL and an iDataLink module. They both do the same thing. You'll have to pick one for your install. ;)
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
thrue1 
Copper - Posts: 77
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Location: Illinois, United States
Posted: March 01, 2014 at 10:33 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry; Thank you very much;
I still need little clarification;
When you say pin 85 ground you mean: GROUND to the chassis; or from the 24 pin harness; # 21;Violet / YELLOW; -200mA Starter Output?
Please clarify...
Also, in the 10 pin harness; I will not need to use : #3 PINK/BLAND (+) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY.
freqsounds 
Copper - Posts: 289
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Joined: October 17, 2008
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Posted: March 01, 2014 at 11:30 AM / IP Logged  
Pin 85 will go to chassis ground.
You can also use that violet / YELLOW starter wire if you want, you'd get the same result. It would connect as
85 - violet / YELLOW starter (-) output
86 - +12V constant (fused)
30 - starter2 on the vehicle
87 - +12V constant (fused)
The Flex Relay 87A is not needed for this this install.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
vin123 
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Joined: February 22, 2014
Location: Minnesota, United States
Posted: March 01, 2014 at 12:07 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks freqsounds, I got from ebay, so its probably not flash yet. No, I don't have XKLoader2. I can have W2W or D2D, but not both.
I might get XKloader later since it got less wires connections. Right now, I just want to make sure that I have connections right from Dball to viper 5704 (5706). And here I rewrite connections again and hope it looks okay?
W2W
D1/1 to H4/3
D1/2 to H4/1
D1/3 to H2/5
D1/10 to H2/9
D2/1 to H2/2
D2/3 to H2/6
D2/4 to H2/19
D2/5 to H2/23
D2/6 to H2/16
D2/12 to H2/17
Here is D2D:
D1/9 to H3/1
D2/10 sil to sil pin 7 obdii
D2/11 RDA to body of ECU connector not sure where it is
D3/3 to can high pin 6 of obdii
D3/4 to can low pin 14 of obdii
D3/10 to pin 19 head light switch
D3/11 not connected?
freqsounds 
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Posted: March 01, 2014 at 12:21 PM / IP Logged  
You're going to have to get it flashed so you program the key. It's not going to work right without flashing. Maybe a local shop will flash it for you for a couple bucks.
As for the connections, all black lines on the diagram for the DBALL need to be connected for D2D.
All wires need to be connected for W2W, the black and dashed blue lines.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
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