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Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring


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freqsounds 
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Posted: March 01, 2014 at 11:24 PM / IP Logged  
Yea it turns on right away. This doesn't control the coolant going through the heater core, so it's not going to make a difference on the motor.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
thrue1 
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Location: Illinois, United States
Posted: March 01, 2014 at 11:33 PM / IP Logged  
I am saying,
For cold winter:
If I kept knob on 2 and started car with remote start, it is not a strain on motor on starting... I see the rpm slowly get to normal after 5 min, and If I started heat with a delay start it would be more effective? No?
For summer:
I think delay start not needed, if you keep AC on really low setting when u remote start? Would help though? No?
If so, do u suggest putting a delay timer on the accessory output (ORANGE). With some capable timer delay?
freqsounds 
Copper - Posts: 289
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Posted: March 01, 2014 at 11:43 PM / IP Logged  
There shouldn't be a strain on the engine at all, they're two separate systems. The only thing it would strain is the charging system, but it's made to handle it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, it wouldn't make a difference whether the blower were delayed, at 2, or at 4 during the beginning of the start or while warming up. It has no bearing on the motor.
It wouldn't be more effective either. The climate system doesn't dictate how fast the engine warms up. If it takes a long time for the car to warm up, you might want to get the thermostat in the cooling system checked.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
vin123 
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Location: Minnesota, United States
Posted: March 02, 2014 at 12:04 AM / IP Logged  
freqsound, i went to expresskit website and i see 2 dball installation guides.
The one you show me is: dball2 402.TL4 v1.15 firmware release date is 9-25-13.
and the one i've been using is this one: dball2 402.TL7 v1.15
Firmware Released Date: 1/16/2014
so which one should I use? does it matter if i choose either one? all i need is to get the right flash..
thanks
freqsounds 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 12:13 AM / IP Logged  
Your firmware is correct. The wiring should be the same though.
You want the latest firmware. It has updated code to make sure everything works properly. Make sure you're flashing it for the 'G Key' though. The encryption on the keys makes a difference.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
vin123 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 12:28 AM / IP Logged  
thanks you, as you know i'm new to this., there will be more ?s to come. i need to look for more.
thanks again...
freqsounds 
Copper - Posts: 289
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 1:54 AM / IP Logged  
No worries, keep the questions coming! Better to learn by questions than error!
Just let us know if you need anything.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 2:54 AM / IP Logged  
"I am saying for cold winter:
If I kept knob on 2 and started car with remote start, it is not a strain on motor on starting.."
Actually not at all because apart from the other points freqsounds made in answering that question,there's always a delay on of about 4 seconds on vehicular HVAC systems from start up.
When we used to install them the relays had a 3 second on delay.
Also it's not the AC compressor that draws the heavy juice, it's the cooling fans and the heating elements.
Also just noticed freqsound's comment it has no bearingon the motor. Very funny.
Test before boxing up.
thrue1 
Copper - Posts: 77
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Location: Illinois, United States
Posted: March 02, 2014 at 8:11 AM / IP Logged  
Please help,
I want to Put a delay timer in accessory output. Or, just not hook up accessory wire!
Instead I will put accessory wire on AUX channel and wire with a relay, so that I can turn on after few minutes, let's say in winter so car has enough time to warm up before I turn on the blower fan on position 2?   
Is it ok not to use accessory output from remote starter to car? And instead use one of AUX channel to control (power up) the accessory wire? I know I will need a relay?
Just got a better idea.. Just to use a relay:
86: 12v fused
85: -200 mA of AUX 2; latched
87: accessory output (ORANGE)
30: wire hooked up to accessory wire in car
? Would this work?
thrue1 
Copper - Posts: 77
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 8:59 AM / IP Logged  
Just want to Make correction:
It should be latched with reset not just
Latched as previously thread.
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