viper 5706v, 2013 ford f-150

Hi Guys, I am trying to tackle installing a 5706v on my 2013 F150. In my previous life I used to install these for a living and I didn't think it was going to be too bad for me to do it myself. Well, alarms have changed and vehicles have changed. This site has been an incredible source of information, so I am hoping you guys can help me out on a couple of questions: 1.) What is the 'Activation Input' used for? Do I need it? 2.) I am having trouble finding the +12v brake wire. I found the brake switch but NONE of the wires are outputting a +12vdc signal when the brake is applied...I have never had such a problem with a brake wire. Brake lights work, but my test light initally shows a faint ground signal, then the brakes are applied and there is nothing. Any suggestions? I am listing my connections below. If you wouldn't mind, I would like your input on it. I am second guessing myself on some of these. Vehicle Information: 2013 FORD F-150 XLT    Alarm / Remote Start Unit: VIPER 5706v    Bypass Module: PKTX    Alarm / Remote Start / Bypass Unit   Vehicle Connection     Color     Description     Color     Polarity     Location: MAIN HARNESS - 6PIN CONNECTOR H1/1     RED     (+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT     GREEN/ Red (15A)     +     Ignition Switch, black 7-pin plug, pin 4 H1/2     BLACK     (-) CHASSIS GROUND     Ground     -     Chassis H1/3     BROWN     (+) SIREN OUTPUT     Black SIREN H1/4     WHITE/ BROWN     PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE-PIN 87a OF RELAY      H1/5     WHITE/ BROWN     PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT     Yellow/Blue     +     BCM, gray 10-pin plug (E), pin 6 H1/6     ORANGE     (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT   SENSORS (Shock & Glass & Tilt) NEUTRAL SAFETY HARNESS, 2-PIN H2/1 SWITCH CONNECTION    H2/2 SWITCH CONNECTION    DOOR LOCK HARNESS, 3-PIN H3/1     BLUE     (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT     Yellow/Purple     -     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 8 H3/2     (EMPTY)         H3/3     GREEN     (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT     Blue/Green     -     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 6 REMOTE START HARNESS, 10-PIN H2/1     (EMPTY)         H2/2     RED / BLACK     (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT     Red (30A)     +     BCM, black 32-pin plug (D), pins 6 and 1 H2/3     PINK/BLACK     (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87a keyside of FLEX RELAY     Not Used H2/4     WHITE/ BLACK     (+) IGNITION 2/ FLEX RELAY OUTPUT     Not Used H2/5     RED     (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT     Not Used H2/6     GREEN     (+) STARTER INPUT (KEYSIDE)     Blue/White     +     Ignition Switch, black 7-pin plug, pin 7 H2/7     VIOLET     (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)     Blue/White     +     Ignition Switch, black 7-pin plug, pin 7 H2/8     ORANGE     (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT     PURPLE / Green     +     Ignition Switch, black 7-pin plug, pin 6 H2/9     RED / WHITE     (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87     Blue/Red (30A)     +      H2/10     PINK     (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     WHITE/ Orange     +     Ignition Switch, black 7-pin plug, pin 1 AUX./SHUTDOWN/TRIGGER HARNESS - 24-PIN H3/1     PINK/WHITE     (-) 200mA IGNITION 2 / FLEX OUTPUT     Not Used H3/2     BLUE/WHITE     (-) 200mA 2nd STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT     BROWN / Blue     -latched     Driver Kick, dk gray 22-pin plug, pin 20 H3/3     RED / WHITE     (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT     Not Used H3/4     BLACK / YELLOW     (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT     Gray/Purple     +     BCM,gray 12-pin plug (A), pin 1 H3/5     DARK BLUE     (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT     BLUE PKTX H3/6     WHITE/ BLACK     (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT     Not Used H3/7     WHITE/ VIOLET     (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT     530T Window Module (Front) H3/8     ORANGE / BLACK     (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT     Not Used H3/9     GRAY     (-) HOOD PIN INPUT     Blue/Orange     -N.C.     BCM, brown 26-pin plug (F), pin 2 H3/10     BLUE     (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER (N/C or N/O)     Tailgate Pin Install Hood Pin for Tailgate H3/11     WHITE/ BLUE     ACTIVATION INPUT     ??? H3/12     VIOLET/WHITE     TACHOMETER INPUT     NOT Blue     ac     any fuel injector H3/13     BLACK/ WHITE     (-) 200mA NEUTRAL SAFETY/PARKING BRAKE INPUT     Ground     -     Chassis H3/14     GREEN/ BLACK     (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT     Not Used H3/15     GREEN     (-) DOOR INPUT     GREEN/ Purple     -N.C.     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 9   White     -N.C.     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 5   Green     -N.C.     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 20   Yellow     -N.C.     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 21 H3/16     BROWN / BLACK     (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT     PURPLE / Green     -     BCM, black 52-pin plug, pin 33 H3/17     PINK     (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT     Not Used H3/18     VIOLET     (+) DOOR INPUT     Not Used H3/19     VIOLET/BLACK     (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT     530T Window Module (Rear) H3/20     BROWN     (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT     PURPLE / White     +     Brake Switch, white 4-pin plug, pin 1 H3/21     VIOLET / YELLOW     (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT     Not Used H3/22     GRAY/BLACK     (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START     Not Used H3/23     ORANGE     (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT     Not Used MIGHT Use this to delay the Window Features H3/24     GREEN / WHITE     (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT     PURPLE / Green     -     BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 18   YELLOW /GREEN BCM, gray 26-pin plug (C), pin 11 PKTX Module Connector 2 - White 6-pin C2/1     PURPLE / WHITE     DATA 1     PURPLE / Gray (RX)     Data     PATS Transceiver, black 4-pin plug, pin 4 C2/2     YELLOW/BLACK     DATA 2     Yellow/Orange (TX)     Data     PATS Transceiver, black 4-pin plug, pin 3 C2/3     BLUE     (-) WHILE RUNNING (STATUS)     H3/5 Dark Blue     -      C2/4     GREEN     KEY SENSE     No Connection C2/5     PINK     See Configuration     Immo Power PATS Transceiver, black 4-pin plug, pin 1 C2/6     BLACK     GROUND     No Connection Thanks in advance, Mike

The activation input is only used to activate the remote start from an external source. You wont need it. If you cant find the brake wire at the switch, go to pin 28 of the black 52 pin plug of the BCM.

thanks blanx. I started looking for the brake wire at the BCM first (since most of the connections are there anyway) but there were 2 PURPLE / white wires and neither of them tested good, so i went right for the sourse and didn't find what i was looking for there either. Once i get home tonight i'm going to try and find it.

I found the brake wire. There is a green plug at the base of the BCM that I had disconnected in order to get better access to some of the wires. That connector needs to be plugged in for things to work right. I figured it had to be a silly oversight. So far, I've got the Aux./Shutdown/Trigger harness installed and I can move on to the Main Harness and Remote Start Harness either tonight or tomorrow night.

Some corrections:- H/6 Orange only for tilt. Shock and glass break each have their own "mux" socket (white) on the side. Orange also to orange on 2 x 530t otherwise windows won't close on arming! H2/5 Red. Constant 12V+ please, else no ignition! H2/4 WHITE/ BLACK (+) IGNITION 2/ FLEX RELAY OUTPUT Not Used especially when it's a Pink/white?. Blue/white defogger. Program it as such. Test before boxing up.

Thanks for the clarification harry. H1/6 will be used for the tilt sensor and also to the 2x 530T. With the glass and shock sensors being plugged into their respective aux ports. H2/5 will be constant +12v. (Not sure how I missed that one). H2/4 is confusing because it looks to be exactly the same as H3/1, the only difference being that the wire on H2/4 is the heavy 16-gauge wire and the H3/1 is the small 22-gauge.