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kreg357 
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Posted: July 08, 2014 at 8:37 PM / IP Logged  

OK.  Been busy with work but got a few minutes now.  A recap :

1.  2010 Honda Civic, 4 Dr, Auto
2.  Viper 5906V
3.  ADS AL-CA flashed with DBI AL(DL) HA2

Going with W2W between the Viper & ADS AL-CA using the Type 3 diagram on Install Guide #15376.

So far we have the H3 harness listed.

Viper 5904V H3      2010 Honda Civic ignition switch harness

H3/1 NC No Connection   Not Used
H3/2 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACC/STARTER INPUT          White (50A) (+)  @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3
H3/3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A Not Used
H3/4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT        Red  +  ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 5   ***
H3/5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT      White (50A) (+)  @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3
H3/6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)   Yellow (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 1
H3/7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)           Yellow (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 1  and ADS AL-CA BLACK/ White
H3/8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT           Orange (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 4
H3/9 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY    White (50A) (+)  @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3
H3/10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT        Blue (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 6

*** Program the Viper Menu 3, Item 8 to Option 2 for the needed ACC2 output on the H3/4 Pink/White wire.

Here is the Viper H2 connections :

Viper 5906v Harness 2

AUX/Shutdown/Trigger, 24-pin  
H2/1 (-) Ignition 2 / Flex Output .2A Pink/White       Not Used
H2/2 (-) 2nd Status / Rear Defogger Output .2A Blue/White            Not Used
H2/3 (-) Trunk Release Output .2A     RED / White    To ADS AL-CA RED / White
H2/4 (-) Dome Light Output .2A BLACK / YELLOW          Not Used
H2/5 (-) Status Output .2A Dark Blue         To ADS AL-CA GWR Blue/White
H2/6 (-) Aux 3 Output .2A WHITE/ Black       Not Used
H2/7 (-) Aux 1 Output .2A WHITE/ Violet       Not Used
H2/8 (-) Aux 4 Output .2A ORANGE / Black    Not Used
H2/9 (-) Hood Pin Input (Normally On or Normally Off) Gray           To ADS AL-CA Yellow *
H2/10 (-) Trunk Pin / Instant Trigger Input Blue       To ADS AL-CA Yellow/Red
H2/11 Activation Input WHITE/ Blue               Not Used
H2/12 Tachometer Input     Violet/White      To Civic F.I.  any wire NOT Yellow/Black or YELLOW /GREEN
H2/13 (-) Neutral Safety / Parking Brake Input     BLACK/ White          To Chassis Ground
H2/14 (-) Factory Alarm Disarm Output .2A GREEN/ Black     Not Used
H2/15 (-) Door Input Green   To ADS AL-CA Yellow/Black
H2/16 (-) Horn Honk Output .2A BROWN / Black          To Civic  Orange (-)  @ horn switch, White 20 pin plug, Pin 10
H2/17 (-) Ignition 1 Output .2A Pink   Not Used 
H2/18 (+) Door Input Violet Not Used
H2/19 (-) Aux 2 Output.2A Violet/Black         Not Used
H2/20 (+) Brake Shutdown Input Brown      To Civic  Light Green (+)  @ brake switch
H2/21 (-) Starter Output .2A Violet / YELLOW    Not Used
H2/22 (-) Diesel Wait to Start Input Gray/Black         Not Used
H2/23 (-) Accessory Output .2A Orange       Not Used
H2/24 (-) Factory Alarm Arm Output .2A     GREEN / WHITE       Not Used

*  Verify that the Civic has the Factory Alarm system that monitors the hood.  If not, install the Viper supplied Hood Pin

and connect it to Viper H2/9.

All that is left is the H1 harness :

Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector

H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT White (50A) (+)  @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3        
H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND         Chassis Ground
H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT Viper siren
H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION         Not Used
H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT   To Civic  Gray (-)  @ headlight switch **
H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA GWA OUTPUT Not Used
** Set Viper Parking Light Jumper/Fuse to (-)

And of course there is the ADS AL-CA wires not already mentioned above :

Red to Viper H1/1 Red
Black and Blue/Red to Viper H1/2 Black
WHITE/ Red to Civic Gray Unlock
White to Civic Green Lock
and the three wires that go to the Civic's 7 Pin Transponder connector.

All of these connections should be well soldered and insulated.

Next is all the required programming.  Follow the bypass module guide steps on Page 10.  Use Installation Mode =

Standard ( 2 blinks ) as previously mentioned, lock it in and proceed with programming.

You also need to program the Viper's Flex relay to ACC2, set Engine Checking = Tach Mode and do a Tach Learn.

Soldering is fun!
mannydelrosario 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 4:45 PM / IP Logged  
Arm and Disarm works. But remote start does not. I also have check engine and the car does not start even when I use the keys.
catback 
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mannydelrosario wrote:
Arm and Disarm works. But remote start does not. I also have check engine and the car does not start even when I use the keys.
Arm/Disarm works, but do the doors lock and unlock? When you start the car with the key what happens and doesn't happen? It's difficult to verify whether you have a set check engine light when the car does not start. The check engine light typically comes up during key on for bulb test/check purposes.
In any case regarding starting the car with the key, ensure the alarm is deactivated and your ignition switch wires are connected properly.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM / IP Logged  
And when you or a pro gets the engine running and if the light stays on disconnect the battery for 20 minutes.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM / IP Logged  
H3 violet and green are connected the wrong way round.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM / IP Logged  
Green to key side, violet to motor side.
mannydelrosario 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM / IP Logged  
It lock and unlock. Key inserted in the second position the check engine light stay on. Using key to start only cranks not start.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM / IP Logged  
Check the ignition wires at the switch using a DMM. Or you've managed somehow to mess up the factory immobiliser.
catback 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 7:14 PM / IP Logged  
Recheck, and then double check your connections between the alca and the wires at the ignition make sure they are right. If they are right, disconnect them at the ignition or even easier at the alca and try to start the car with the key then. If the car starts then you have a wiring or flash issue with the alca.
mannydelrosario 
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Posted: July 13, 2014 at 7:23 PM / IP Logged  
I was able to start it by key before I connected the tach wire to the FI.
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