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jsigna 
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I have a 2013 STi.. 2 starter wires, 2 ignition wires, 1 Acc wire.
viper 5906v,  2013 wrx sti -- posted image.
I have a Viper 5906v. Here is the wiring options.
viper 5906v,  2013 wrx sti -- posted image.
My dilemma is with the 2nd ignition / 2nd starter.
Can you guys please give me your opinions on how to best go about this.
jsigna 
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5906v** Sorry and thanks in advanced!
jsigna 
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Here is what I have so far.. I don't know of those 3 constants are right though..
I don't understand the purpose of the 3 constants..
Pink – Ignition one – to green wire on ignition switch
RED / White – 12+ constant – to white at ignition switch
Orange – Accessory 1 – to yellow at ignition switch
Violet – Starter 1 – to BLACK/ white at ignition switch
Red – 12+ constant – to white at ignition switch
Pink/White – Ignition 2 BLUE
Pink/Black – Not needed
RED / Black - 12v constant – to white at ignition switch
Starter 2 – to white at ignition switch – Relay
The relay gets connected as follows:
87 - 12v constant (fused)
30 – Starter 2 (white) (either 2nd Ignition or 2nd start)
86 - 12v constant (fused)
85 - (-) 200mA output from Viper (Starter)
howie ll 
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The three constants are your power inputs for the remote starts and must be used.
Pink/white supplies your second ignition.
H23 Violet / YELLOW to 85
12V+ fused at 30amps to 86 and 87
30 to second starter.
1N4004 diode across 85 and 86, diode band to 86.
jsigna 
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Wow happy I posted here. I did not read anywhere else that said a diode was required for that aux - and + 12v constant to the relay.   
Forgive me what is the diode protecting (just wondering)
Thank you so much by the way.
jsigna 
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Posted: July 26, 2014 at 6:45 AM / IP Logged  
jsigna wrote:
Wow happy I posted here. I did not read anywhere else that said a diode was required for that aux - and + 12v constant to the relay.   
Forgive me what is the diode protecting (just wondering)
Thank you so much by the way.
I see now.. Since i am using a ground output..
If you are using the ground out when running wire for anything else, you must diode isolate each branch of this circuit. Place a diode inline in each branch of the wire with the white band of the diode facing towards the remote starter. Failure to do this will likely create a draw on the battery among other problems.
I assume that i will need to do this for the clutch bypass too. I plan on uing the same aux ground when starter output for that relay as well.
You are a savior.
howie ll 
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When a relay shuts down it can send a spike back to your source in excess of 200 volts, it can fry your R/S circuitry. The diode in this application is known as a "quenching" diode.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 26, 2014 at 6:49 AM / IP Logged  
Just seen your last post, yes "Y" shaped with a diode (same as above) inline to each upper leg of the way, bands towards the R/S.
howie ll 
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Does Subaru still feature a neutral safety circuit at the engine management? Connect the H2 BLACK/ white to that wire. See if your vehicle starts in gear, If it doesn't you can safely set up the R/S as an auto.
jsigna 
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howie ll wrote:
Does Subaru still feature a neutral safety circuit at the engine management? Connect the H2 BLACK/ white to that wire. See if your vehicle starts in gear, If it doesn't you can safely set up the R/S as an auto.
Yep it sure does.. I plan on having the NSS go to the hood pin on the viper as well as the hood pin sensor.
Interesting about the diode. I will have to pick up 2 diodes and 2 relays.. I have hid relays.. but they may be junk.
Now I need to confirm that I understand how to wire the diodes correctly.
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