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ddmisho 
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Hi, I'm new to installing Starter.
Installing Nustart NU4500R remote start with Computstart cm5200-sf brain bought it for a line time just install now (7- 9 years ago) (Version(3 Flashes)) on 03 OZ Rally Lancer (New Install).
I got the wiring diagram from Firstech LLc for Cm5200-sf
and i also got the wiring for my 03 oz rally Lancer.
did all the installation myself. and help online.
my problem now is that when i try to remote start, there is no CRANKING and No Start. (the Dash light up with all the warning on, and fuse meter move). and i can here it try to start cause you can hear static voice and its sparking. the cm5200 have a slot for BLADE (but my vehicle isn't compatible with it).
question:
1) do i have to flash or do programming on the CM5200 before installing??
2) How to fix the No cranking and starting problem?
Thank You
ddmisho 
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P.S. the Lock and Unlock work (since my is just a starter).
   if i use remote to lock door and use key to unlock door and try to start car it will not start. (y is that??)
if need more info please let me know i would like to get this all fix up please..
Thank you
catback 
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If you have a starter kill/anti-grind the vehicle won't start until the system is disarmed. This is normal operation for most units with such feature.
If you insert the key in the ignition and then remote start the vehicle does it crank and start? If so then you need to install a transponder bypass for remote start to function by itself.
ddmisho 
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catback wrote:
If you have a starter kill/anti-grind the vehicle won't start until the system is disarmed. This is normal operation for most units with such feature.
If you insert the key in the ignition and then remote start the vehicle does it crank and start? If so then you need to install a transponder bypass for remote start to function by itself.
Thank You for the respond.
regarding the question the key doesn't have transponder chip.
I called the Mitsubishi Dealer to get it confirm.
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Ensure your starter kill relay is wired the correct way around. Yellow should be starter side, yellow/black on the key side.
ddmisho 
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That's what I though. Spend half a day to recheck all the. Cable again. And yes that is what I did yellow to starter and BLACK / YELLOW to key side.
catback 
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Make sure both red and RED / white +12v feeds are connected to a constant 12v. Then check starter output during a remote start with a test light or dmm (digital multi-meter).
ddmisho 
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catback wrote:
Make sure both red and RED / white +12v feeds are connected to a constant 12v. Then check starter output during a remote start with a test light or dmm (digital multi-meter).
??? Isn't the red / white for a second starter???
I only connected the red to the +12V.
did not reallize that i have to connect in the Red / White to +12V. cause i though it was for a second starter.
when reading the wire diagram of cm5200 i'm confuse on this part regarding red / white wire.
[QUOTE]Pin 3
RED / White
- Constant 12V positive (+) power
input. This wire must be connected. The proper
vehicle wire will test (+) 12V at all times - while
the key is in the off position, the on position and
during crank.
This pin also has a RED / white wire that is pre-
wired to a relay. The short violet wire on Pin 85 is
the trigger input wire that determines the (+) 12V
output type of the long blue wire on Pin 30. For
example, connecting the negative (-) Ignition
output from Connector 3, to the short violet wire
coming off of the relay, will provide an additional
(+) 12V Ignition output from the long blue wire. [/QUOTE]
do i have to connect that violet wire into something or i can just cap it?
Thank You.
catback 
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You can cap it off or hack off the whole relay if your not using it. RED / White is power input to the relay and to the CM5200 itself and must be connected for proper operation.
ddmisho 
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catback wrote:
You can cap it off or hack off the whole relay if your not using it. RED / White is power input to the relay and to the CM5200 itself and must be connected for proper operation.
Just as you said it. After I hook up the red /white wire to +12v. The starter work like a charm now. Don't know how many thank you I can said. And still Thank You so Much. Your a lifesaver. Thank You again

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