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jsigna 
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Posted: September 30, 2014 at 8:21 PM / IP Logged  
Hey all.. Every site says 2002 wrangler ignition wire is blue..
It has 12v as soon as I turn the key to accessory.
Please help.
Thanks,
tonanzith 
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Posted: September 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM / IP Logged  
A true ignition may have power when the key is turned to accessory but voltage will drop out when cranking.
Gary Sather
jsigna 
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Posted: September 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM / IP Logged  
Myy dude.. Weird but okay.
Wiring it now.
There was all kind of different information online.
The 12 volt seemed to be going against bull dog and other sites.. I have 3 different diagrams for wiring the accessory 2nd acc and 2nd ignition.
Anyone know for sure.. Pretty annoying.
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Always use a meter to confirm. Sorry I misspoke. An accessory will drop out when cranking. The ignition may have power switched rot accessory but will not to drop out while cranking while a true accessory will drop out voltage when cranking.
Gary Sather
jsigna 
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Okay thanks I will confirm that the acc drops when cranking.
But now comes a question of 2nd ACC or 2nd IGN etc..
I can't get right information!!
http://alarmsellout.com/support/diagrams/vehicle/JEEP%20WRANGLER%201988-2005.pdf
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=47957
http://www.S P A M.com/2002-jeep-wrangler-car-security-wiring-guide/
http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/printlist.aspx?MakeID=25&ModelID=17645
Someone please tell me if there are actually and 2nd anythings and what is the ACC or IGN.. (I will check tomorrow on ACC vs IGN)
catback 
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Blue will be your Ignition 1
BLACK/ Orange your Ignition 2
BLACK/ Green your Accessory
As always test but it's not uncommon for an ignition that has +12v in the Acc, On, and Start positions. It of course isn't the feed that keeps the jeep running but it does power necessary systems for the jeep to run. BLACK/ Orange will likely test +12v in the On and Start positions. BLACK/ Green will likely test +12v in only the On position.
As for the difference between Acc vs Ign as it relates to aftermarket remote start systems. Ignition are wires required for a vehicle to run, Accessory are optional connections that power accessories. The wire that powers the heater/AC would be labeled as an Acc even though when you turn your key to the Acc position the heater/AC blower doesn't come on. Some wiring info mislabels things and may mark an accessory as a ignition or vice-versa, this is where testing comes in to straighten things out.
As already stated true ignition wires are hot in run and start (at a minimum), accessory wires drop out in the start position.
howie ll 
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Catback, BMW and Porsche in particular need ACC in the start procedure.
jsigna 
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Thank you for clarification.
Wish all the sites matched up.
Could you guys take a look at my other post where i can't get my vipe unit to turn on?
catback 
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howie ll wrote:
Catback, BMW and Porsche in particular need ACC in the start procedure.
Noted, but is that ACC hot in start?
howie ll 
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Definitely on BMW, possibly Porsche, on BMW ACC is treated as ignition 2.
Connect to your R/S ACC = no start!
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