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aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM / IP Logged  
Thats whats freakin blowing my lovein mind... A million pages on the damn web, forum how tos, youtube videos and still this damn thing dont work. Its wizing me off. Whats the point of having a alarm if i still gotta open the door with a key.
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:21 PM / IP Logged  
It works. You have something wired wrong. You probably have 30 and 87 backwards.
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i am an idiot wrote:
It works. You have something wired wrong. You probably have 30 and 87 backwards.
Ive wired every post every which way imaginable.. Reversed 85 and 86, 30 and 87. Jumped 86 and 87 with 12v, jumped 86 and 30 with 12v and 87 leading to the actuators.
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:27 PM / IP Logged  
Ill redo the wiring today and post pics of it.
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Quite true for which I apologise but..... this relay configuration is used by the million weekly by auto makers and by the thousand weekly by people like us, AGAIN CHECK/TEST ALL YOUR STAGES.
Tried it again and i blew a fuse then fried a 12v line
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 3:52 PM / IP Logged  
What are you connecting to 87A. I see no mention of 87A when you say what you are connecting.
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i am an idiot wrote:
What are you connecting to 87A. I see no mention of 87A when you say what you are connecting.
86 to 12v fused 15amps
87 to 12v fused
85 to alarm neg.
87a to ground(same ground my wiring is on)
30 to actuators
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM / IP Logged  
Alarm negative or lock/unlock for 85?
"Tried it again and i blew a fuse then fried a 12v line"
87a and 30 wrong way round.
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 5:04 PM / IP Logged  
Im doing it just like the diagram says... 87a to ground... Output to actuators on 30... Fried wires..
If i turn 30 and 87a around. When ON 30 which is ground, will connect with 87 which is 12v and 87a will be OFf.if im correct..
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 5:18 PM / IP Logged  
30 to actuator (motor wire) normally sits at rest on ground , connected to 87a.
86 and 87 are constantly at at 12 volts.
When 85 is grounded, the link between 87a is broken, feed to 30 is switched to 87 (12V+), meanwhile the other relay is "inert" thus the other motor wire still goes to ground, thus the actuator will move in one direction.
Removing the ground (85) pulse from the first relay and applying it to the other relay will move the actuator in the other direction.
You need to try this first, then test the alarm's lock and unlock outputs, test one part at a time.
Make sure you haven't made a wiring error in shorting one of those motor wires, e.g. trapped by a door stay, window channel or winder mechanism.
When installing actuators, I fit the motors, then run the wiring into the car and I test, one side to POS, the other to NEG then I reverse those connections, if the motor works and runs easily I can box up the door and go to the next stage. The trick is to test at each stage.
I've told you all I can, I'm pretty sure the others agree, think you're on your own now.
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