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08 tacoma, remote starter, immobilizer


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westpoint 
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Posted: November 22, 2007 at 10:02 PM / IP Logged  

Hello. 

I ordered a Valet 561T remote starter and XK05 PKT 2 Bypass Immobilizer for my 2008 Toyota Tacoma V6 5AT Double Cab from autotechs.com

This is what I received loose in a plain box with no instructions:

- Valet 561R module with wire harnesses and hood switch.

- IM05 PKT2 Omega Integration Module with wire harness and instructions

1) Did I get what I paid for? Does a 561T mean I get a 561R without a remote?  I plan on using my Toyota remote to activate remote starter by pushing 3 times.  The diagram for the IM05 and XK05 look like they are equivalent.

I have found installation instructions and owners guide for the 561T.  I'm assuming 08 is same as 06 Tacoma wiring which I've found in the12volts forum  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=83234&KW=2006+Toyota+Tacoma

2)  Can you confirm the brown wire used to activate the IM05 goes to "Remote Start Harness H2/5 Blue/White (-) 2nd status" on the 561?  Also, that the "4-Pin Satellite Harness" is not used?  I've read this here  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=56456&KW=valet+561.

3) The Tacoma wiring for tachometer shows BLACK/ white at "data-link connector Pin 9."   Can you please tell me where this connector is located?  Is this the OBDII connector?

4) Finally, the Tacoma wiring doesn't have anything for Neutral Safety Switch input.  Page 17 of 561T instructions says vehicle might have factory starter lock-out so just connect toggle switch wire to ground.  Is this the way to go?  Why do you need this toggle (override) switch at all since you wouldn't be starting the truck if not in park or neutral?

Thanks for any advice!  Yes, I'm new to all of this other than doing Alpine alarms in a 65 Mustang and 64 Thunderbird many years ago.

/david

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 PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT YES TRANSPONDER   SEE NOTES 
 Standard on Tacoma 3.4L V6 models. If using a key for bypass, see the provided diagram for wiring instructions.
 12 VOLTS WHITE/ blue Ignition switch harness   + 
 IGNITION Blue / YELLOW Ignition switch harness   + 
 IGNITION 2 BLACK/ red Ignition switch harness   + 
 ACCESSORY Runs with ignition wire     
 STARTER BLACK/ white Ignition switch harness   + 
 STARTER 2 GREEN/ black Ignition switch harness   + 
 KEY SENSE GREEN/ black Ignition switch   - 
 TACH SIGNAL BLACK/ white At diagnostic plug below driver's side dash   AC 
 FUEL INJECTOR Opposite from BLACK/ red At any injector on engine   AC 
 LOCK Violet On white connector in driver's kickpanel   - 
 UNLOCK GREEN/ black (double pulses) On white connector in driver's kickpanel   - 
 DOORPIN GREEN / WHITE In 26-pin plug on module connected to fusebox under dash   - 
 FACTORY ARM Arms with lock wire     
 FACTORY DISARM Disarms with unlock wire     
 BRAKESWITCH Blue At switch above brake pedal   + 
 PARKLIGHTS Green In 13-pin plug on left of fuses on fusebox under dash   + 
 PARKLIGHTS (-) Green Light switch harness   - 
 HAND BRAKE GREEN / WHITE At switch on handbrake lever   - 
 HORN GREEN/ red In 13-pin plug at right of fuses on fusebox under dash   - 
 CLUTCH SWITCH BLACK/ white At switch on top of clutch pedal   TYPE 1 
 DRIVER WINDOW UP Blue / YELLOW At master window switch   REV POL 
 DRIVER WINDOW DOWN Blue/green At master window switch   REV POL 
 PASSENGER WINDOW UP RED / black At master window switch   REV POL 
 PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN RED / green At master window switch   REV POL 
 HEADLIGHTS RED / blue or RED / green At light switch harness   - 
 REVERSE LIGHTS RED / black In driver's kickpanel   + 
 DIMMER WHITE/ green At harness behind dimmer switch   + 
 VSS WIRE GREEN/ orange At ECM behind glovebox    
 The GREEN/ ORANGE vss wire is located on the ECM behind the glovebox. On the 2.4L and 2.7L, it's at pin-8 of the 22-pin connector. On the 3.4L, it's at pin-12 of the 28-pin connector.
westpoint 
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Posted: November 23, 2007 at 11:14 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks KarTuneMan. That answers my tach wire question.
westpoint 
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Thanks for changing the Topic.  I thought I had run out of room to add more detail.

After searching some more in the forums, I think I've found the answers:

1) I'll just hook up the 561R using 561T  instructions.

2) immmobilizer wire will go to blue/white on remote start harness (H2) or blue on 4pin satellite harness.

I'll have to go out and buy some relays and use the 4pin satellite harness since I've got second starter, second ignition, and for accessory (defrost). I should have got a valet model with the satellite included.

3) found location

4) will ground it

Sorry for the multiple question post.    Installers up here want $600-650  for a basic remote starter with installation.  Hope it's ok to post more questions once I go out and get a nice butane soldering iron and start the project. /david

westpoint 
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I ordered a 561T kit but received this:

- 561R module

- connectors for all except 4-pin on LED side, toggle switch, and hood switch.

- no instructions, all loose in a plain white box.

Can someone please confirm if I should be returning this as a screwed up order?   

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The 561R is exactly the same as the 561T but with a transceiver built in and includes an antenna and remote.
You can pick up the manuals for both the 561T and the 561R in the downloads section of this site.
If it came in a white box without any paperwork it is probably a refurbished unit.
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westpoint 
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Twelvoltz, you are the King for replying so fast.  

And yes, I've even read some of your other posts where you declare that you are not related to the12V mastermind.

Cheers!

westpoint 
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- Valet 561T in 08 Tacoma

Door lock pulse (purple wire) is way too short for the RS to activate (activation wire (-) WHITE/ blue).

Any suggestions?   

Also, any workaround to getting the factory remote to work when engine running?

Thanks!

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i think the unit requires 2 pulses to active. Try pressing lock twice.
westpoint 
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Everything else regarding the RS works fine.  I can activate by manually grounding activation wire (I've got it set to start after 3 pulses) or by using the key in the lock and locking 3 times because the DMM shows a long pulse.   I tried the blue/red power lock motor and it seems too short as well.    Do you guys usually resort to using a relay?  I'll try that this afternoon.

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