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2008 Honda Civic Si Sedan Alarm/Remote Start


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e10tran 
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Can someone please post wiring chart for a 2008 Honda Civic Si, it's a 4-door if that matters. I would like to install rs & security. Thanks.
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2008 HONDA CIVIC 4DR SEDAN EX/SI WITH AMPLIFIED AUDIO SYSTEM
Audio/Mobile Video       
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery WHITE (+) RADIO HARNESS
Accesory VIOLET (+) RADIO HARNESS
Ground BLACK (-) RADIO HARNESS
Illumination RED / BLACK (+) RADIO HARNESS
   MAY ALSO BE GRAY
Dimmer RED (-) RADIO HARNESS
Power Antenna GRAY (+) PART OF ANTENNA CONNECTOR
   USE AN ANTENNA ADAPTOR FOR INTEGRATION
Amp Turn On LIGHT BLUE (+) RADIO HARNESS
Amp Location LOCATED UNDER THE FRONT OF THE CENTER CONSOLE
Steering Cntrls NO
Speed Cntrl YES
Radio Security YES
Security       
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 BLUE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
All Door Trigger    
   YOU MUST DIODE ISOLATE ALL TRIGGERS TO MONITOR ALL DOORS.   
Domelight Super PINK (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
LF Latch GREEN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
RF Latch LIGHT GREEN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
LR Latch BROWN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
RR Latch GRAY (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Trunk Trigger BLUE (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Hood Trigger LIGHT BLUE (-) AT VEHICLE FUSEBOX
Alarm Disarm BROWN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
   CAN ALSO BE IN BEHIND THE FUSE BOX, IN A WHITE PLUG
Alarm Arm ORANGE (-) UNDER DAHS FUSEBOX
   CAN ALSO BE IN BEHIND THE FUSE BOX, IN A WHITE PLUG
Parking Lights RED (+) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Low Crr Pk Lights GRAY (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Convenience       
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Headlights-Lo PINK (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
All Hazrd Lights GREEN (+) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Wipers-Lo ORANGE (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Wipers-Hi WHITE (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Parking Brake ORANGE OR LIGHT GREEN (-) AT PARKING BRAKE SWITCH
   ALSO LIGHT GREEN AT UNDER DASH JUNCTION BOX ABOVE GAS PEDAL PIN E6
Trnk Release GREEN (+) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Remote Start       
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 BLUE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 2 BLACK/ RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
   NOT ON ALL MODELS, BUT IF PRESENT MUST USE FOR REMOTE START
Accessory 1 ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 2 RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Anti-Theft Type UNIVERSAL IMMOBILIZER
Anti-Theft Descript THE KEY SENDS AN RF SIGNAL TO THE BCM MODULE THROUGH AN ANTENNA LOCATED AROUND THE IGNITION CYLINDER
Key Sense PINK (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
   ALSO AT UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Tachometer BLUE (AC) AT ECM MODULE UNDER HOOD NEAR DRIVER STRUT TOWER
   MANUAL TRANSMISSION VEHICLES ONLY
Speed Sense BLUE (AC) AT ECM MODULE UNDER HOOD NEAR DRIVER STRUT TOWER
Parking Lights RED (+) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Low Crr. Pk Lights GRAY (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Brake Lights LIGHT GREEN (+) SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
   ALSO AT UNDER DASH FUSEBOX PIN F30
Reverse Lights BROWN (+) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
   MAY ALSO BE VIOLET
Horn ORANGE (-) IN HARNESS AT STEERING COLUMN
   ALSO AT UNDER DASH FUSEBOX PIN Q3
Rear Defrost BROWN
Heated Driver Seat LIGHT GREEN & BLUE (+) HEATED SEAT SWITCH
   LIGHT GREEN IS LOW, BLUE IS HIGH
Heated Passngr Seat GREEN & YELLOW (+) HEATED SEAT SWITCH
   GREEN IS LOW, YELLOW IS HIGH
Modules       
WIRE LOCATION      
Module 1 ECM - UNDER HOOD ON DRIVER STRUT TOWER
Doorlocks/Windows       
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Power Unlock GRAY (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
PowerLock GREEN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
   MAY ALSO BE BLUE
Driver Mtr Unlock YELLOW (REV) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Driver Mtr Lock BLUE (REV) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
Pas Mtr Unlock YELLOW
LF Window Up YELLOW (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
LF Window Dn GREEN (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
RF Window Up ORANGE (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
RF Window Dn BROWN (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
LR Window Up GREEN (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
LR Window Dn VIOLET (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
RR Window Up LIGHT BLUE (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
RR Window Dn RED (REV) DRIVER WINDOW SWITCH
If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe
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Posted: February 04, 2010 at 10:43 AM / IP Logged  

A couple of bonus notes...

Use the Parking Light (-) wire, it is Gray at the light switch in the steering column.  If you get on the wrong Red (+) wire at 42 pin connector at the top of the fuse box it will cost big money.  There are two Red wires in that connector and they test the same....

Your car has a manual transmission.  Make sure your R/S is safe for manual transmissions and set up accordingly.  You will need to bypass the clutch interlock switch.  Get a R/S that has a Start (-) output ( or create a Start (-) signal with a relay ) and connect it to the Orange wire at the Yellow plug on the clutch switch.

Soldering is fun!
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Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:19 PM / IP Logged  

spend the extra buck and purchase an idatalink, fortin, or expresskits CANBUS module. It will save you SO much time.

make everything easy on yourself.

Ted
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e10tran 
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Thanks everyone for all the useful information. I am going to use bypasskit Pkall for this car & definitely secure the RS from starting while in gear. One more question, I am going to install a viper 5701 + pkall bypass, does anyone know the exact wiring for the remote start so that I can prevent the car from starting while in gear?
I have seen a couple of people who create their own neutral switches/parking break & such. What is the best way to go about in wiring the manual transmission RS? If someone could supply me with relay with wiring or something that would be of great help.
e10tran 
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I found a wire on the 5701 manual that says the following:
VIOLET (-) 200mA Starter output
This wire works like the starter wire and can be used (with a relay) to drive any additional starter circuits in the vehicle.
Can I use this to bypass the clutch by wiring it to the orange wire on the yellow plug clutch interlock switch? Do I need a relay or can I just wire it directly to the orange wire? Thanks.
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Posted: February 05, 2010 at 6:39 AM / IP Logged  

you should use a relay, just to prevent excessive current draw.

85 - (-) start trigger from rs

86 - constant 12v
87 - ground
30 - to clutch orange wire.

now, the 5701 WILL NOT start if the vehicle is left in gear when programmed for manual transmission.

you will need to follow a reservation mode in order to start the car.

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Posted: February 05, 2010 at 6:40 AM / IP Logged  

The PKALL will work fine in your Civic.

The (-) Start wire from your R/S Output 5 Pin connector should be OK to go directly to the cars Orange clutch wire.

The Viper 5701 is manual transmission safe and comes defaulted to manual trans mode.  However you must attach the Tach wire from the R/S Input 5 pin connector to a good tach source.  Any fuel injector will work. 

Also you must attach the Neutral Safety wire from the R/S Input 5 pin connector to the cars Parking Brake wire. 

And of course you must hook up the door trigger inputs.

Soldering is fun!
tedmond 
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a pkall will only do bypass. sine you have an alarm/rs if you look for a CANBUS module, it will save your time. if not a pkall will do just fine.
Ted
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e10tran 
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 5:48 PM / IP Logged  
Tedmond,
Here are the remote start inputs/outputs from my manual, which wire should i use for the "relay pin 85 -(-) start trigger from rs?"...Is it either of the status outputs?
Remote start input, 5-pin connector
1 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT
2 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE
3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN WIRE
4 GRAY N/O or N/C (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT, ZONE 6
5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER
Remote start auxiliary output, 5-pin
1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT
2 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT
3 VIOLET (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
4 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
5 BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT
Thanks for everyone's help, I am still learning for manual cars as I have done a lot of automatics and have very little experience on manuals.
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