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aronmigz 
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Posted: December 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM / IP Logged  
So i been working on this for about a week now..i tried the normal way the package says to wire a relay, the 3 wire, 5 wire and nothing..idk what im missing here..the only it ever seems to make the actuator move is if i keep 85 and 86 energized 24/7... And im kinda iffy bout doing that.
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howie ll 
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Just follow my last diagram.
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Ill give it a shot.. Im close to saying love it and weld the doors up and slide in and out like the dukes of hazard..aint gotta play with faulty locks and handles again
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Leave the work, have a cup of tea/coffee, relax. Go back tomorrow and copy that diagram, BTW make surer you have a 1 pole 2 way, aka changeover switch, momentary, centre off.
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Haha best advicd ever.. Forget a coffee ima smoke me a joint and chill..tomorrows my day off so ill have plenty of sunlight to dig in
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 2:39 AM / IP Logged  
Here. This is IAAI's linked diagram.
power locks relay - Page 3 -- posted image.
aronmigz 
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davep. wrote:
Here. This is IAAI's linked diagram.
power locks relay - Page 3 -- posted image.
Tried that one too.. No luck. I know the actuators work, i can get to both unlock and lock but never at the same time or it does it really rapidly. No where fast enough to open the door that quickly lol
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aronmigz wrote:
davep. wrote:
Here. This is IAAI's linked diagram.
power locks relay - Page 3 -- posted image.
Tried that one too.. No luck. I know the actuators work, i can get to both unlock and lock but never at the same time or it does it really rapidly. No where fast enough to open the door that quickly lol
Then your connections aren't correct. You've made a mistake, and are overlooking it during trouble-shooting. That's all it can be.
The above diagram is correct. It works. OEM's use it too in millions of vehicles produced all over the world.
I'm wondering if you have an understanding of how the relay numbers correlate to how a relay operates? The regulars on here know the numbers intuitively. If you don't, then it's difficult to deduce how the circuit is supposed to work.
The relay has two states: Energized, and OFF.
85 and 86 are the coil. 85 (-), 86 (+). These are the "control".
When the coil is ON, 30 is connected to 87.
When the coil is OFF, 30 is connected to 87a.
Perhaps taking the mystery out of how a relay functions will help you understand how this circuit operates. And that should help you find your mistake in the wiring.
Now I'm going invisible too.
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:11 PM / IP Logged  
X2 with Davep. Check your wiring, make sure your getting NEG on lock and unlock for about 1/2 second each from the alarm green and blue.
Wire the relays then simply ground 85 on each. If that works wire up the switch, which MUST be momentarily if that works connect the alarm wires.
Bet you've either made a simple wiring error or you have the wrong type of switch.
As Davep says, I've been using this type of set-up since the early 1980s, my mod to the original diagram allows for a switch but the type of switch is VERY IMPORTANT.
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This is the cheapest way to switch:-
https://www.radioshack.com/mini-spst-0-5-amp-momentary-switch-4-pack/2751547.html#start=116&sz=12
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