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bluevolt 
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Posted: April 12, 2015 at 5:44 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bluevolt
Hi,
    I noticed that there was a couple of forums that had people touch on doing a keyless ignition push button system, but none with detailed information.   I was hoping that to help everyone who is interested in doing this that one or some of you on this website can give detailed information on this.
    Here is the scenario, I have a 97 Honda Civic EX with a Viper 5706v car alarm that is a 2way and remote start. My ignition has been damaged by a thief and i cannot replace the ignition since the steering column was damaged. Therefore, I want to be able to start my car with a push button/switch without us of any keys. The button must engage all 3 steps of the ignition process, Acc 1, Acc 2, and momentary start.
Thank you in advance everyone. Please use as much images and videos as possible.
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Posted: April 12, 2015 at 6:41 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote tedmond
You will want to do it properly.
http://www.advancedkeys.com/
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bluevolt 
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Posted: April 12, 2015 at 6:54 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bluevolt
Thank you for that link, but I want this system to work without a RFID device and without buying a kit. I want to do this from "scratch".
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Posted: April 13, 2015 at 2:02 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
WHITE/ blue at H2 on the Viper, momentary switch to ground.
Extremely unsafe, make sure you're in neutral if the vehicle is a manual.
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Posted: April 13, 2015 at 8:59 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote tedmond
This is a subject for debate. In my opinion you can always buy a tumbler with the key. Since its a 97 there is no immobilizer. Next to nothing for a tumbler from the scrap yard, and have the dealership cut you new keys. If the steering column really is damaged as you say "can't replace" how are you able to drive it then?
imo do it properly or don't do it at all.
Howies suggestion would work but very unsafe As he mentioned. Not really what you're looking for since that will only activate the remote start, shutdown after programmed run time and shutdown upon brake input
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Posted: April 13, 2015 at 9:23 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Thanks for the comment Ted, I suppose you could have an SP switch for the ignition and another for the ACC but seriously cheaper to replace column and tumbler, also much safer.
BTW Ted, the other show is Monday Mornings from Fox, just started here, rather like it.
PS you can buy a multi way ignition switch, OFF/ACC/IGN/Start from an number of suppliers over here.
Ignore the steering lock, mount it anywhere convenient.
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Posted: April 13, 2015 at 9:29 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
For example:-
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/key-switches/3254878/
bluevolt 
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Posted: April 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bluevolt
Thank you for your input guys, but please don't use my post as a message forum to each other, put information that is "safe" and answer the question without negative feedback. I just want safe and possible answers nothing else, this is why this question is never clearly answered.
   Here is a video link showing someone successfully doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JRSkToc1Yg. Yes I tried contacting him with no success.
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Posted: April 13, 2015 at 8:22 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.
Browse the relay diagram section. Use your imagination. If you know basic relay circuits, you will come up with something. I did. It would have about 10 relays and some diodes in it, but it would do what you want.
Hint: This is the foundation. You have to add some stuff to it, but it can be done. If your Honda is a stick, incorporate the clutch pedal switch for safety.
Keyless ignition -- posted image.
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Posted: April 14, 2015 at 3:03 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Nice answer Dave, I'd guess KP technologies is also worth looking at.
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