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howie ll 
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Posted: July 12, 2015 at 5:07 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
You've probably burnt out the trunk release circuit on the Viper, those old units had no protection.
That's the problem when jumping in without knowing what you're doing.
Wire up the relay as I explained then connect terminal 85 to ground, if the trunk opens that will prove whether I was right about the circuit being burnt out.
crash17 
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Posted: July 13, 2015 at 8:13 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote crash17
Hey Howie I think the circuit is still good. im thinking positive LOL. I a little confused about the last post so please forgive me if I misconstrued your last post.
FIRST if you refer to my picture when you say cut the output wire. are saying cut the continuous hot wire from the fuse box to the switch OR cut the wire from the switch to the relay.
second are we still using the diode relay set up if yes I have the diode the band side going toward 86 and the other side of the diode to 85. Im assuming we are using this same relay setup.
third when you say ground the 85 wire are you referring wiring the 85 wire to the RED / white wire coming from the R/C box OR grounding the 85 wire to a chassis ground or connecting the 85 wire RED / white to the R/C box and connecting to a chassis ground.   
Forth 87A going to switch im guessing to push button switch
FIFTH 86 and 87 to a continuous 12 volt hot on fuse block
SIXTH 30 going to trunk release motor in the trunk
thanks
Trunk release try this.
Test is there a constant 12V+ or NEG (ground) on one side of the switch.
If ground attach the RED / white to the other side.
If 12V+ wire as follows.
5 pin standard Bosch type relay;
Cut output wire.
Switch side to 87a.
RED / white to 85.
!12V+ constant fused at 15 amps to 86 and 87.
Other side of cut wire to 30.
Diode 1N4004 across the coil, band side to 86.
Second your unit is in valet mode hence the constant blue light.
Take it out of valet mode you will get arming chirp and lights.
If the lights don't work, there's a fuse in the unit casing, make sure it's in POS (+) mode. If not try NEG (-).
See referral paperwork that comes in the box
howie ll 
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Posted: July 14, 2015 at 1:10 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
From switch to relay, disconnect the RED / white from 85 and ground 85, that tells you if the relay set up is working.
Second you could test the output of the RED / white it should go to ground after pressing and HOLDING the trunk release switch for 2 seconds.
Yes to all else.
Interesting post this one.
Car where R/S might be impossible to achieve.
Owner unable to understand.
Old unit from 10 years ago.
Nice lesson in Zen, the art of patience.
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