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2004 Ram 1500 and Avital 4103


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fathawg13 
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Posted: December 27, 2015 at 1:22 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fathawg13
I am trying to get an Avital 4103 to work on my 2004 Ram 1500. I have installed many remote starts in the past, from bulldog to Fortin. This is my first Avital install and maybe my last. Most confusing wire list and zero help from Avital. Can anyone help with what wires are required and where to land them?
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Posted: December 27, 2015 at 7:47 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357

Gray key?  transponder chip - need a bypass module

Factory Alarm?  need some relays and resistors

I'll assume no to both as you did not mention a bypass module ( and you have done R/S's before ).

Avital 4103 and 2004 RAM 1500

H1/1  LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK  FACTORY ALARM DISARM not used

H1/2  GREEN / WHITE  FACTORY REARM not used
H1/3  YELLOW  (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM)     not used
H1/4  WHITE/ BLUE  (-) ACTIVATION INPUT not used
H1/5  ORANGE  (-) GROUND WHEN LOCKED        not used
H1/6  BROWN  (-) HORN OUTPUT DARK GREEN/ PURPLE (-)  @ STEERING COLUMN HARNESS 
H1/7  RED / WHITE  (-) TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT not used
H1/8  BLACK  GROUND     Chassis Ground
H1/9  WHITE  (+/-) LIGHT FLASH   Set to (+) and use a relay as per diagram :
http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/32277_RAM-FULL-SIZE-PICKUP-_CHRYSLER%20PARKING%20LIGHT%20DIAGRAM.pdf

H2/1  BLACK/ WHITE  (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT Chassis Ground ( auto trans! )

H2/2  VIOLET/WHITE  TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE    dk. blue/gray  ac  @ PCM, orange plug, pin 34
H2/3  BROWN  (+) BRAKE SWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE          WHITE/ TAN (+)  @ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL 
H2/4  GRAY  (-) HOOD PINSWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE          to kit supplied hood pin
H2/5  BLUE/WHITE  (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOG   not used

4-pin satellite harness diagram

1  BLUE  STATUS OUTPUT          not used
2  ORANGE  (-) ACCESSORY OUTPUT    not used ( might be used w/relay - see Note 8 below )
3  PURPLE  (-) STARTER OUTPUT           not used
4  PINK  (-) IGNITION OUTPUT     not used

Heavy gauge relay wiring diagram

1  PINK  (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO IGNITION CIRCUIT   PINK/WHITE (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
2  PURPLE  (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUIT     YELLOW (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
3  ORANGE  (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO ACC CIRCUIT DARK BLUE (+) See NOTE *8  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
4  RED  (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12 INPUT    RED (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
5  PINK/WHITE  (+) PROGRAMMABLE OUTPUT           Pink/Lt. Green (+) @  ignition harness
6  RED  (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT RED (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
NOTE *8 On some Full Size Trucks with Climate Control it may be necessary to connect (3) extra Accessory wires.
PINK / YELLOW 16 gauge & PINK / YELLOW 14 gauge and the DARK BLUE Accessory #1 to turn on the A/C Compressor.

Door lock harness, 3-pin connector

1  BLUE  (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT         to Directed 451M Door Lock Module
2  EMPTY  NOT USED
3  GREEN  (-) LOCK OUTPUT          to Directed 451M Door Lock Module
You could use a couple of relays & resistors and this diagram :
http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/14301_RAM-FULL-SIZE-PICKUP-_DODGE%20RAM%2004-05%201%20WIRE%20JBS%20UNITS.pdf

You will need to make a programming changes to the 4103 for Tach Mode and Horn Honk.

 

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fathawg13 
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Posted: December 28, 2015 at 4:01 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fathawg13
Turns out I have been fighting a bad hood pin the whole time. The wiring info posted is correct
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Posted: December 28, 2015 at 6:15 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357

And to add insult to injury, that new hood pin will go bad in a few years, depending on the weather and road salt.  Might think of replacing it with a tilt switch.  They last a lot longer and you don't have to drill any holes.

2004 Ram 1500 and Avital 4103 - Last Post -- posted image.

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