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shafferny 
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Posted: February 13, 2016 at 6:11 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote shafferny
Interesting Beegbie. I didn't realize it worked that way. Thanks.
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Posted: February 15, 2016 at 6:02 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357

Interesting topic.  I had the opportunity to see what happens on the 2013 Dodge Caravan in this Pictorial :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=134484

This install did not use the iDatalink ADS AL-CA flashed with the DL CH4 firmware.  It used the EVO-ALL with the V 74

Chrysler firmware.  With this set-up, at key take-over, you will see the Red security light come on briefly and the message
"Low Tire".  All very normal / common for these vans and causes no harm.

Anyway, I sat in the van a did a remote start.  After the remote start up was complete and the parking lights were on solid

for a few seconds, I used my finger to move the ignition switch to the RUN position.  The engine continued to run but
no Red light flash on the instrument cluster and no "Low Tire" message.  Next I stepped on the brake pedal and the
engine immediately shutdown.  My gut feeling is that the Red LED is the vehicle verifying for the keys' transponder chip.

It would seem that Fortin modules have this important safety feature handled properly.  I will have to test it on the next

ADS AL-CA w/CH4 firmware vehicle I do.  On this vehicle :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=140728
I did try the 45 second test only and the engine did not shutdown in 45 seconds as mentioned by the guide.  As a matter of
fact, the doors did not have to be locked for a remote start, also mentioned in the CH4 install guide.

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shafferny 
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Posted: February 15, 2016 at 8:23 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote shafferny
That's interesting Kreg. The Caravan you described behaves just like my truck does with the current RS that's installed, except I don't get the low tire light. The red security light flashes once or twice when I do the take over, which appears to be verifying that there's a valid key in the ignition. I haven't tried the finger thing to verify it though.
If the weather ever warms up, maybe I'll get to work on it.
shafferny 
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Posted: February 21, 2016 at 6:53 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote shafferny
Today got up around 40 degrees so I did the install of the CM6200 and ADS ALCA. Sure enough, there's only a 45 second window to do the take over or the vehicle shuts down. After remote starting, the vehicle locks the doors. When you unlock the doors you only have 45 seconds to do the take over. What's kinda weird is that you can start the truck with the doors open and it doesn't care. Lol
The bypass the previous installer used with the Code Alarm was a Flash Logic. The Flash Logic had no 45 sec take over and didn't lock the doors before or after remote starting. Interesting, being that it's an ADS product as well. Maybe it has an older version of firmware that doesn't incorporate the time out security feature.
Anyway, just posting this as a follow up.
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