2007 Honda Element - Viper 4806V install

I've done an Alpine Alarm install before but this is the first time tackling a remote start install. Can someone take a look at my wiring template. Vehicle Information: 2007 Honda Element EX AWD Automatic      Alarm / Remote Start Unit: Viper 4806V      Bypass Unit: Autostart DBALL2 Unit - Flashed Honda4 Type 3 Installation            Wirring Connection DBALL2      Installation Type 3            Hardware Harness     Vehicle Location DBALL2 - 12Pin Red Connector      Pin11 - ORANGE / Black - Immobiliser Data     Pin02 Keysense Data - RED / White - Green 07pin Immobilizer Connector @ Ignition (Or Factory Alarm) Pin10 - Door Lock Data - Yellow Black     Pin02 Keyless Entry Data - Blue/Orange - Green 17pin Connector @ Back of Fuse/Relay Box Pinout remaining and unused wires      DBALL2 - 14Pin Blue Connector      Pin14 - Black (-) Ground     (-) CHASSIS GROUND Pin13 - Red (+)12v     (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - White (50A) - Ignition Switch Harness Pin11 - Yellow/Red - Security Light     Pin 5 - CUT KeySide - ?Color?- Green 7pin Immobilizer Connector Pin10 - Orange Red - Security Light     Pin 5 - CUT WireSide ?Color?- Green 7pin Immobilizer Connector Pin09 - Orange / YELLOW - Alarm interrupt     NOT USED NO FACTORY ALARM Pin08 - Yellow - Alarm interrupt     NOT USED NO FACTORY ALARM Pinout remaining and unused wires      DBALL2 - 10Pin Black Connector      Pin10 - Blue/White - (-) GWR (Status) Input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pin09 - Pink (+) Ignition Input     (+) Ignition Input - BLACK / YELLOW - Ignition Switch Harness Pin03 - RED / White (-) Trunk input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pin02 - Blue (-) Unlock Input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pin01 - Green (-) Lock Input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pinout remaining and unused wires      DBALL2 - 04Pin White Connector      D2D Connection to Remote Starter/Alarm                  Wirring Connections Viper 4806V            VIPER 4806V - 06 Pin White Main Connector      PIN01 - Red - (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT     (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - White (50A) - Ignition Switch Harness PIN02 - Black - (-) CHASSIS GROUND     (-) CHASSIS GROUND PIN03 - Brown - (+) SIREN OUTPUT     (+) SIREN OUTPUT PIN04 - WHITE/ Brown - PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE      NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE PIN05 - White - PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT- #30 COMMON of onboard relay     (-) Blue - factory Alarm Harness Connector (Set Viper Fuse to Negative Trigger) PIN06 - Orange - (-) 500mA (GWA) GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE       VIPER 4806V - 24 Pin White AUX/Shutdown/Trigger Connector      Pin01 - Pink/White - (-) 200mA IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin02 - Blue/White - (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT     Keep Wire - Future wiring to rear defogger Pin03 - RED / White - (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin04 - BLACK / YELLOW - (-)200mA DOME LIGHT OUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin05 - Dark Blue - (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin06 - WHITE/ Black - (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin07 - WHITE/ Violet - (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT     FUTURE USE KEEP WIRE Pin08 - ORANGE / Black - (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin09 - Gray - (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/O OR N/C)     Not sure if needed with DBALL2 D2D - Otherwise install hoodpin Pin10 - Blue - (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/O OR N/C)     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin11 - WHITE/ Blue - REMOTE START ACTIVATION INPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin12 - Violet/White - Tachometer Input     Green Wire @ Instrument Cluster - Will D2D handle the Tach? Pin13 - BLACK/ White - (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE/E-BRAKE INPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE (Used for Manual Transmission) Pin14 - GREEN/ Black - (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin15 - Green - (-) DOOR INPUT (N/O OR N/C)     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin16 - BROWN / Black - (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT     (-) Orange HORN WIRE @ Steering Column Pin17 - Pink - (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin18 - Violet - (+) DOOR INPUT     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin19 - Violet/Black - (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin20 - Brown - (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT     (+) WHITE/ Black @ Brake Pedal Switch Pin21 - Violet / YELLOW - (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin22 - Gray/Black - (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin23 - Orange - (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin24 - GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE       VIPER 4806V - 8 Pin White Remote Start Heavy Gauge Connector      Pin01 - RED / Black - (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT     CUT KeySide (+) BLACK/ White @ Ignition Harness Pin02 - Pink/Black - (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT #87a key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin03 - Pink/White - (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT #30 of FLEX RELAY     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin04 - Red - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT     (+) BLACK / YELLOW @ Ignition Harness Pin05 - Violet - (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER DISABLE)     CUT CarSide (+) BLACK/ White @ Ignition Harness Pin06 - Orange - (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT     (+) BLACK/ Red @Ignition Harness Pin07 - RED / White - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin08 - Pink - (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     (+) BLACK / YELLOW @ Ignition Harness       VIPER 4806V - 3 Pin DoorLock Connector      Pin01 - NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin02 - NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin03 - NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE       VIPER 4806V - 4 Red D2D Connector      CONNECT TO DBALL2 UNIT     CONNECT TO DBALL2 UNIT

Think you might have something mixed-up. The 4806V is not an alarm system. The Brown wire on the 6 Pin main harness is for the (-) Horn Output. Better double check to see which Viper unit you have. Here are some corrections for a 4806V system. Some issues with the thick ignition wires... VIPER 4806V - 8 Pin White Remote Start Heavy Gauge Connector       Pin01 - RED / Black - (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT     White @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Pin02 - Pink/Black - (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT FLEX RELAY          NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin03 - Pink/White - (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT       WHITE/ Red @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     Pin04 - Red - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT   White @ Ignition Harness Pin05 - Violet - (+) STARTER OUTPUT            BLACK/ White @ Ignition Harness Pin06 - Orange - (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT          BLACK/ Red @Ignition Harness Pin07 - RED / White - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY     White @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Pin08 - Pink - (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     BLACK / YELLOW @ Ignition Harness The 4807 does not include a prewired starter kill function. You can add an external relay and get this if needed. Pin13 - BLACK/ White - (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE/E-BRAKE INPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE (Used for Manual Transmission) If you have a manual transmission, this wire must be connected to the Parking Brake wire. If you have Auto Trans, you should connect this wire to Chassis Ground. This input wire must see a (-) signal to allow a R/S.Soldering is fun!

Wow. Very good catch! Just looked at the instructions I downloaded and they were for the 5906, 5706, 5806 and 5606! I'll have to find the rights instruction sheet....I can't seem to find a PDF online.

There is one in the Downloads Section :    https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1253Soldering is fun!

Got the right manual and corrected my install sheet. Just to be clear, the starter wire doesn't need to be severed for this install. Also, I've read that a Keyless Entry Data wire might be found in the Factory Alarm harness. Can anyone confirm is this is the case and what color the wire might be. Here is my new connection sheet. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Vehicle Information: 2007 Honda Element EX AWD Automatic      Alarm / Remote Start Unit: Viper 4806V      Bypass Unit: Autostart DBALL2 Unit - Flashed Honda4 Type 3 Installation            Wirring Connection DBALL2      Installation Type 3            Hardware Harness     Vehicle Location DBALL2 - 12Pin Red Connector      Pin11 - ORANGE / Black - Immobiliser Data     Pin02 Keysense Data - RED / White - Green 07pin Immobilizer Connector @ Ignition (Or Factory Alarm) Pin10 - Door Lock Data - Yellow Black     Pin02 Keyless Entry Data - Blue/Orange - Green 17pin Connector @ Back of Fuse/Relay Box Pinout remaining and unused wires      DBALL2 - 14Pin Blue Connector      Pin14 - Black (-) Ground     (-) CHASSIS GROUND Pin13 - Red (+)12v     (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - White (50A) - Ignition Switch Harness Pin11 - Yellow/Red - Security Light     Pin 5 - CUT KeySide - ?Color?- Green 7pin Immobilizer Connector Pin10 - Orange Red - Security Light     Pin 5 - CUT WireSide ?Color?- Green 7pin Immobilizer Connector Pin09 - Orange / YELLOW - Alarm interrupt     NOT USED NO FACTORY ALARM Pin08 - Yellow - Alarm interrupt     NOT USED NO FACTORY ALARM Pinout remaining and unused wires      DBALL2 - 10Pin Black Connector      Pin10 - Blue/White - (-) GWR (Status) Input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pin09 - Pink (+) Ignition Input     (+) Ignition Input - BLACK / YELLOW - Ignition Switch Harness Pin03 - RED / White (-) Trunk input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pin02 - Blue (-) Unlock Input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pin01 - Green (-) Lock Input     NOT USED When D2D Connection Pinout remaining and unused wires      DBALL2 - 04Pin White Connector      D2D Connection to Remote Starter/Alarm                  Wirring Connections Viper 4806V            VIPER 4806V - 06 Pin White Main Connector      PIN01 - Red - (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT     (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - White (50A) - Ignition Switch Harness PIN02 - Black - (-) CHASSIS GROUND     (-) CHASSIS GROUND PIN03 - Brown - (+) SIREN OUTPUT     (+) SIREN OUTPUT PIN04 - WHITE/ Brown - PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE      NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE PIN05 - White - PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT- #30 COMMON of onboard relay     (-) Blue - factory Alarm Harness Connector (Set Viper Fuse to Negative Trigger) PIN06 - Orange - (-) 500mA (GWA) GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE       VIPER 4806V - 24 Pin White AUX/Shutdown/Trigger Connector      Pin01 - Pink/White - (-) 200mA IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin02 - Blue/White - (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT     Keep Wire - Future wiring to rear defogger Pin03 - RED / White - (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin04 - BLACK / YELLOW - (-)200mA DOME LIGHT OUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin05 - Dark Blue - (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin06 - WHITE/ Black - (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin07 - WHITE/ Violet - (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT     FUTURE USE KEEP WIRE Pin08 - ORANGE / Black - (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin09 - Gray - (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/O OR N/C)     Not sure if needed with DBALL2 D2D - Otherwise install hoodpin Pin10 - Blue* - (+) or (-) FACTORY HORN INPUT (Use Jumper to set polarity)     (-) Orange HORN WIRE @ Steering Column Pin11 - WHITE/ Blue - REMOTE START ACTIVATION INPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin12 - Violet/White - Tachometer Input     Green Wire @ Instrument Cluster Pin13 - BLACK/ White - (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE/E-BRAKE INPUT     (-) CHASSIS GROUND (Automatic Transmission) Pin14 - GREEN/ Black - (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin15 - Green - (-) DOOR INPUT (N/O OR N/C)     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin16 - EMPTY     NOT USED Pin17 - Pink - (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin18 - Violet - (+) DOOR INPUT     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin19 - Violet/Black - (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin20 - Brown - (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT     (+) WHITE/ Black @ Brake Pedal Switch Pin21 - Violet / YELLOW - (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin22 - Gray/Black - (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin23 - Orange - (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin24 - GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE       VIPER 4806V - 8 Pin White Remote Start Heavy Gauge Connector      Pin01 - RED / Black - (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT     (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - White (50A) - Ignition Switch Harness Pin02 - Pink/Black - (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT #87a key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY     NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin03 - Pink/White - (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT #30 of FLEX RELAY     (+) RED / White @Ignition Harness Pin04 - Red - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT     (+) BLACK / YELLOW @ Ignition Harness Pin05 - Violet - (+) STARTER OUTPUT     (+) BLACK/ White @ Ignition Harness Pin06 - Orange - (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT     (+) BLACK/ Red @Ignition Harness Pin07 - RED / White - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87     (+) White @ Ignition Harness Pin08 - Pink - (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     (+) BLACK / YELLOW @ Ignition Harness       VIPER 4806V - 3 Pin DoorLock Connector      Pin01 - NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin02 - NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE Pin03 - NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE     NOT USED When D2D Connection - PINOUT WIRE       VIPER 4806V - 4 Red D2D Connector      CONNECT TO DBALL2 UNIT     CONNECT TO DBALL2 UNIT

From above: Can I delete the Pin10 - Blue* - (+) or (-) FACTORY HORN INPUT (Use Jumper to set polarity). Look like only applicable if factory alarm in vehicle.

savagem wrote: From above: Can I delete the Pin10 - Blue* - (+) or (-) FACTORY HORN INPUT (Use Jumper to set polarity). Look like only applicable if factory alarm in vehicle.

Yes, not needed.Soldering is fun!

Still have the wrong 6 Pin Main connector. Only difference is noted below : H/3 BROWN (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT This wire goes to the vehicles' Orange (-) horn wire. Perhaps a typo. ACC2 is WHITE/ Red VIPER 4806V - 8 Pin White Remote Start Heavy Gauge Connector        Pin01 - RED / Black - (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT     White @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Pin02 - Pink/Black - (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT FLEX RELAY          NOT USED - PINOUT WIRE Pin03 - Pink/White - (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT       WHITE/ Red @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS   *set Flex to ACC2 Pin04 - Red - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT   White @ Ignition Harness Pin05 - Violet - (+) STARTER OUTPUT            BLACK/ White @ Ignition Harness Pin06 - Orange - (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT          BLACK/ Red @Ignition Harness Pin07 - RED / White - (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY     White @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Pin08 - Pink - (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     BLACK / YELLOW @ Ignition Harness If you want Starter Kill and Anti-Grind, get a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with 5 Pin harness and wire as follows : Relay Pin 85 to Viper H/6 ORANGE 500 mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT Relay Pin 86 to Viper thick Pink IGN1 Relay Pin 30 to vehicle side of cut BLACK/ White Starter wire + Pin 5 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT Relay Pin 87a to ignition switch side of cut BLACK/ White Starter wire Soldering is fun!

I've made the above corrections to my install spread sheet. I am assuming "*set Flex to ACC2" is something I have to program in the viper unit post install?

Yes. The Viper Pink/White Flex Relay output default is IGN2. See Menu 3, Feature 8. Set to Option 2 for that Pink/White wire to act as an Accessory type wire. There are other items that should be changed in the Vipers programming. Foremost is the Transmission Mode, also in Menu 3.Soldering is fun!