Viper 791XV remote start, auto headlight

JWorm:

First of all, my installer didn't tie the door trigger wire from alarm to the domelight. I ran the four wires from each door and dioded them for him. He didn't connect the dome supervision either.

Last nite I tried to duplicate the problem and I observed that, after turning off and pulled the key, I simply sat inside without opening the door, in 30 secs, it ARMED. I was so puzzled. Then I spent some time reading the manual and here is the clue:

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And it is ENABLED BY DEFAULT! So I turned it off to see what it does. Voila! It doesn't start count down until I open the door! That fixed my "wife runs out while I wait in car" problem!

But I am still puzzled what this feature does and why it is enabled by default and how many installer don't even bother turning it off and how many customers out there are bothered by these so-called feature!

When at least one problem is resolved and I stil have question about the remote start with auto-headlight problem. JWorm, you mentioned to use the factory rearm wire to pulse the door trigger wire to the ECU so that when the remote start is timed-out (or when I shut it off), it will simulate a door open+close so that the headlight will start counting down to shutoff. And you explained that the viper software (even the car is armed) will ignore the door trigger during the remote start shutdown (Can someone else please double-confirm this as I can't find this described in the manual??). 

I wonder how many cars out there with auto-headlights and this Viper alarm with remote start (or any remote start) have this problem of headlights not turning off after remote start shutdown ? Isn't that a design problem?? There should many cars out there that have auto-headlights nowadays.  I did search and search and it seems I am the only one.

I can't accept keeping the headlight switch in off as a solution from a consumer point of view. DEI, are you reading this? Will the next version of Viper remote start alarm be improved?? Or can the viper 791XV software (firmware) be upgraded?? And if I have you reading this, can you please explain what the AED is for and why it is turned on by default?

And I still have the problem of the ignition-controlled unlock ON sometimes unlocks driver door and sometimes unlock all doors but I will narrow down why when I have time.

Thanks for your time.

trust me.... DEI executives are not reading this.... lol

they have more important things to do than troll thru  forums like this....

and actually it was me that suggested you just pulse the door pin wire replicating opening the door, similar to shutting down a RAP circuit.... so JWorm telling you the same thing should constitute your second opinion...

have you checked your owners manual or called your dealer? many perimiter lighting circuits are programmable in how they work ( on time, on/off, etc )

lastly... i am looking at the install manual in front of me and feature 1-9 AED the default is off, not on

Kgerry:

What is RAP circuit?

I am looking at the Viper 791XV manual. The default for the Automatic Engine Disable (AED) is ON (one chirp).  Different manual versions maybe .

I hope JWorm can have time to reply my last posting. Or anyone's comment is welcome.

KJorm:

I know I am the anal type. I know most installers don't like customers like me knowing more than just how to use the buttons.

I am seeing feature 1-9 AED is defaulted to ON. Maybe you have different manuals but this is the one that came with my two viper 791XVs. 

Thanks for the suggested solution for my remote start + auto headlights problem. Even I still have a bit of concern about pulsing the door trigger from the factory rearm wire (when remote start shuts down) that would or would not trigger the armed viper or factory alarm, no doubt this would be the best solution and I will give it a try.

Sorry for being such a pain and I do really appreciate your expertise.

AED stands for  "Automatic Engine Disable". It is a feature that will kill the starter (and in this case, it seems to arm the car also) 30 sec after key is no longer in ON position without the need to open+close the door. When "Automatic Engine Disable" is ON (BOLD by default), this feature is ENABLED.

Oh well, I am not in this industry and really don't care. I was just amazed that DEI can have this ill feature enabled by default and keep shipping them that way and no customer complaints about it and installers don't even notice it.

** For ill, I meant, it A.) doesn't only kill the starter but it also arms the alarm without open+closing the door and B.) enabling this feature creates that "wife runs out while I wait in car" problem.