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thor81012 
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Posted: January 04, 2007 at 1:45 AM / IP Logged  
how good do you guys think the massive audio p3000.1 is?
jeffchilcott 
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Posted: January 04, 2007 at 3:25 AM / IP Logged  
not very good, happened to test one this year at a show, it hardley put out 1000 watts RMS
Grade D in my book
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sweetnessa 
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Posted: February 15, 2007 at 1:53 AM / IP Logged  
not true massive audio's p3000.1 is one of the most powerful amps in the market cea compliant and very eficient so i dunno wat u were using but diffinetly grade a in my book i own one 4 l7's 12   151db
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perhaps you didnt read my profile.     I tested it via an amp meter and volt meter with it hooked in my car with well over 10,000 amps of burst discharge availible.
and 151 with 4 12 l7s      
myself 154.1 with 2 10 l7s      thank you come again
next time know who you are calling out!
You could try for my girlfriend, shes only at 153.1 on 2 12 L7's in a civic coupe, with eveything in the trunk
All setups less then 2500 WRMS, except my finals setup, but that just a measly 9,000 WRMS   Im sure not comparable to your Massive pile of junk!
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Posted: February 15, 2007 at 9:28 AM / IP Logged  
sweetnessa wrote:
not true massive audio's p3000.1 is one of the most powerful amps in the market cea compliant and very eficient so i dunno wat u were using but diffinetly grade a in my book i own one 4 l7's 12   151db
jeffchilcott wrote:
perhaps you didnt read my profile.     I tested it via an amp meter and volt meter with it hooked in my car with well over 10,000 amps of burst discharge availible.
and 151 with 4 12 l7s      
myself 154.1 with 2 10 l7s      thank you come again
next time know who you are calling out!
You could try for my girlfriend, shes only at 153.1 on 2 12 L7's in a civic coupe, with eveything in the trunk
All setups less then 2500 WRMS, except my finals setup, but that just a measly 9,000 WRMS   Im sure not comparable to your Massive pile of junk!
Ouch. Did that hurt? PWN3D!!!!1!
Yeah, you'll learn that here in this forum there are a few people that we don't question. Jeff happens to be one of those people. If you are getting ONLY 151dB with 3000W and 4 12's, then you have an installation issue, I think. Jeff uses 500W less than that, and gets 3dB hotter than that with a pair of 10's. (And yes, he can prove those numbers...) If you do the math, and we'll assume that your enclosures are perfect, (we'll simply assume that you accidentally stumbled upon Jeff's "super secret" enclosure, and you are using the same alignment as he is...) then the 1000W that Jeff said he spec'd at the show, is a truly accurate number, if not, a bit optimistic.
Me, personally, I am not in any way, shape, or form, an SPL guy, so I can't sell you with any numbers, (don't ask me what my "numbers" are) but we DON'T try to call Jeff's bluff. posted_image
(Sorry, Jeff... had to get your back on this one...)
One thing you need to know about CEA compliance also: It is nothing more than a STANDARD SET OF SPECIFICATIONS. It makes all manufacturers place their gear in the same conditions for testing. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how capable any individual amplifier is, or what it is capable of doing, in a long term situation. It is simply a "yard-stick" for all manufacturers to place their amplifiers next to, so the consumer can see what THAT amp is capable of at THOSE conditions, versus a different amplifer under the SAME situations. I still don't believe it indicates a better amplifier, and I still don't believe they are the end-all-be-all of performance indications.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: February 15, 2007 at 3:34 PM / IP Logged  
Other Jeff was in Mexico I think Dave.........(I would never fill someone's voicemail with say ringtones and bananaphone) but this Jeff is also bang on with his results and information  as well. There are indeed some people on this forum that have the necessary background to put their money where there mouth is. Massive for me is a non-player, if it works for you, that's great.
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sweetnessa 
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Posted: February 18, 2007 at 10:08 PM / IP Logged  
well jeff jeff jeff is that the way u talk  to a female lol its 2 l7's in a bandpass box first of all.second of all massive p3000.1 is running at 4 ohms giving me 1800rms 3rd of all sry for the missprint but i hit 154.9 and when i get this upgrade going im gonna get my p3000.1 to a 2ohm load and 1 12 in a bandpass and hit 154 to 155 in a termlab sensor and heres my number if u wanna chat 17186070348 !!!
sweetnessa 
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Posted: February 19, 2007 at 1:41 AM / IP Logged  
see that was my girl that posted that befor to you jef she didnt know anybetter as you can see shes new at this but i fixed all the missprints ,she messed up on. she did 154db at 4 ohms at 1800rms. ,on the post  the one befor this one i wrote  jef jef jef thats the way u speak to a female lol but she gets afended when you talk bad about her amp lol what do u think would have been a better purchase than the 3000.1 because alot of people claim its very good and does more than what it claims and i think 154 is pretty good on the numbers on 2 12's at basically half of what the amp has to offer. she didnt build it so she wouldent know what it has i build it so let me know jef??
jeffchilcott 
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Posted: February 19, 2007 at 11:42 AM / IP Logged  
sweetnessa wrote:
see that was my girl that posted that befor to you jef she didnt know anybetter as you can see shes new at this but i fixed all the missprints ,she messed up on. she did 154db at 4 ohms at 1800rms. ,on the post  the one befor this one i wrote  jef jef jef thats the way u speak to a female lol but she gets afended when you talk bad about her amp lol what do u think would have been a better purchase than the 3000.1 because alot of people claim its very good and does more than what it claims and i think 154 is pretty good on the numbers on 2 12's at basically half of what the amp has to offer. she didnt build it so she wouldent know what it has i build it so let me know jef??
If you are doing these #'s ont he term lab sensor, then what organization?     Im just putting it out there, we have alot of BS claims in this fourm, and I am the one that puts an end to them all.
Thats all I ask, plese list competitor stats and or organizatiion with full name you run under
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Posted: February 19, 2007 at 11:51 AM / IP Logged  
Those stats as posted when made on a term lab sensor in a approved organization result in a sig line like you see from Jeff above. If you have the substance to prove your claim, that's great and welcome to the site. If you cannot, unfortunately you are a claim like we have all seen before. The worst thing that you can do is spread misinformation.
Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
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