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maxcat 
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Posted: November 10, 2007 at 12:10 PM / IP Logged  

Hey all, currently installing a compustar 2 way into a 2006 torrent and can  not get the vehicle to crank. I did not install a acc. dropout relay because i was under the impression that the compustar simulates the ign on / acc dropout sequence. I am also using a passlock sl2 module for the anti theft system, which programmed without a problem. the compustar seems to be working, ie. receives the signal and starts the start sequence but just does not want to crank. I have also learned and verified the tach signal.

Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

sparkie 
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Posted: November 10, 2007 at 5:48 PM / IP Logged  
You must power the brown accessory wire as an accessory for the starter to crank. This vehicle is unique in that it doesn't have a starter wire but in order for the PCM to enable the crank relay, it must see the correct Passlock II voltage and the brown acc wire come on then off prior to cranking.
sparky
maxcat 
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Posted: November 10, 2007 at 11:52 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the reply sparkie. I beleive the compustar imitates the starting sequence anyway, but I did install the ign delay relay as well as a acc. drop out relay with the same result. I am begining to wonder if it may be the passlock sl2 causing an issue, but as i said previously there was no problem programming it and i think i would be getting the theft light come on if it was the bypass module. Any other thoughts out there, i also tried the no tach setting for the heck of it, again with the same result.
techman93 
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Battery     BROWN AND ORANGE (+) PSC/ECU PINS 12/33 OF 40 PIN PLUG          
Ignition 1 YELLOW (+) PSC/ECU PIN 35 OF 40 PIN PLUG          
Ignition 2 LIGHT BLUE     (+) PSC/ECU PIN 34 OF 40 PIN PLUG          
Accessory 1 GREEN (+) PSC/ECU PIN 11 OF 40PIN PLUG          
Starter 1 BLUE     (+) PSC/ECU PIN 15 OF 40 PIN PLUG          
Starter 2 LIGHT BLUE     (+) PSC/ECU PIN 17 OF 40 PIN PLUG          
Anti-Theft Type          UNIVERSAL TRANSPONDER          
Anti-Theft Descript     THE KEY SENDS A RF SIGNAL TO THE BCM THROUGH A ANTENNA AROUND THE KEY CYLINDER          
Key Sense BLUE/WHITE     (-)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS          
Neutral Safety     GREEN / WHITE     (-)     AT GEAR SELECTOR SWITCH          
Tachometer     WHITE          (AC)     PIN 9 AT THE DATA CONNECTOR
Speed Sense     PURPLE          (AC)     ECU PIN 14 OF A 26 PIN PLUG     
Parking Lights     GREEN          (+)     AT THE BACK OF PARKING LIGHT UNDER HOOD          
Brake Lights     RED / BLACK     (+)     BRAKE PEDAL          
Reverse Lights     RED          (+)     ECU PIN13          
Horn          YELLOW          (-)     STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
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Posted: November 11, 2007 at 9:37 AM / IP Logged  
Do you have the ORANGE & ORANGE / BLACK attached to the YELLOW wire at the steering column ? Also, if the remote starter activates the dash lights ( for ignition turn on ) and the vehicle doesn't crank, chances are the Passlock is not being bypassed properly. I just had one of the other guys come to me locally that installs remote starters and he had a 2006 Torrent and we started with a different bypass module that wasn't working and ended up using a ADS-TBSL-PL and it cranked in the first try after programming. We left all the rest of the wiring the way it was and it ended up being the bypass module.
Jeff
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
maxcat 
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Posted: November 11, 2007 at 3:22 PM / IP Logged  

thanks for the reply Jeff, It turned out to be the actuall 4200dx module. For some reason even with the ground when running wire working, it was not activating the passlock sl2 module, therefore not cranking. I put in an older 4200 that I had and it cranked and fired up first time. Troubleshot for a very long time before going to the other 4200.

Thank-you very much for taking the time to reply


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