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robertas123
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| Posted: September 01, 2009 at 4:14 AM - IP Logged |
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Hi, it's a first time when i am trying to install car alarm into my car.
Car: toyota celica 2004 GT (USA made)
Alarm: Viper 5002
First i started with wiring info collecting and making such a list or smth. where i should connect every wire. Could anyone help me with it. Car alarms are quite new for me so i don't want that after wiring everything would blow up :)
viper install manual
Toyota celica wiring info
My wiring:
Primary Harness (H1) 12 Pin
H1/1 Red/White (-) 200mA Channel 2 output (trunk release) >> Trunk/Hatch Pin / lt. Green / - / trunk light or BCM (or Trunk/Hatch Release, where it is?)
H1/2 Red (+) Constant 12V Power Input (15A fused) >> 12volts / black/red and white / + / ignition harness
H1/3 Brown (+) siren output >> siren red wire
H1/4 Yellow (+) switched Ignition Input, Zone 5 >> Ignition / black/orange / (+) / ignition harness
H1/5 Black (-) Chassis ground Input >> to the ground (paint free sheet metal location)
H1/6 Violet (+) Door trigger input, Zone 3 >> leave disconnected ???
H1/7 Blue (-) Instant trigger Input (trunk input/shunt), Zone 1 >> Trunk/Hatch Pin / lt. Green / - / trunk light or BCM (not sure!)
H1/8 Green (-) door trigger input, Zone 3 >> door trigger / red/white / (-) / driver kick panel
H1/9 Black/white Domelight Supervision Relay Output #30 >> dome supervision / use door trigger
H1/10 White/blue (-) 200mA Channel 3 programmable Output >> ??
H1/11 White (+)/(-) selectable light flash output >> parking lights / lt. Green / (-) / steering column (set jumper to negative)
H1/12 Orange (-) 500mA Ground-When-Armed Output >> ???
Auxiliary Harness (H2) 8 Pin
H2/1 Light Blue (-) Second Unlock >> ??
H2/2 Grey (-) Hood Pin Input, Zone 6 >> ??
H2/3 Orange/Black Retained Accessory Output >> accessory / gray / (+) / ignition harness (not sure!)
H2/4 Grey/Black (-) Channel 6 Output 200mA >> ??
H2/5 White/Black (-) Channel 5 Output 200mA >>??
H2/6 Violet/Black (-) Channel 4 Output 200mA >> ??
H2/7 Light Brown (-) Horn Honk Output 200mA >> horn trigger / blue/black / (-) steering column or BCM
H2/8 Light Green/Black (-) Factory Disarm Output >> disarm defeat / blue/red / 5wi / passenger kick or BCM (not sure!)
Door Lock Harness 7 Pin
H3/A Black/White Domelight Supervision relay Input #87 >> to the chassis ground (door pin circuit negative)
H3/B - H3/G Type B - Three wire (-) ground pulse controlling factory lock relays (i think)
H3/B White/Black Lock #87 Normally Closed >> Not Used
H3/C Green/Black Lock #30 Common (output) >> power lock / brown / (-) / passenger kick or BCM
H3/D Violet/Black Lock #87 Normally Open (Input) >> to chassis ground w/ violet wire
H3/E Brown/black Unlock #87 Normally Closed >> not used
H3/F Blue/Black Unlock #30 Common (output) >> power unlock / yellow/black / (-) passenger kick or BCM
H3/G Violet Unlock #87 Normally Open (input) >> to chassis ground w/ violet/black wire
Immobilizer Wire Connection 3 Pin
A Green/Black Starter - Normally Closed (motor side) >> starter / black/white / (+) / ignition harness (to the starter circuit)
B Green Starter Normally Open (motor side) >> not used
C Green/White Starter Common (key side) >> starter / black/white / (+) / ignition harness (to ignition switch)
Also, i have one wire witch was in box but i don't know where to use it.
Will i need any other components (diodes etc.)? Where?
Thank You for any help. |
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i am an idiot
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| Posted: September 01, 2009 at 6:21 AM - IP Logged |
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| The wire mentioned at the bottom of your post appears to be 2 diodes. Judging by the size of the diodes, they are probably for the parking lights. Some vehicles have separate left and right parking light setups. Your vehicle does not have this setup. I do not think you will need to use the diodes. |
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howie ll
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| I'm going to be a smart-arse here just for a change, in the UK version pull the head unit and heater controls and look above the fuse box at a white plug. That's the connection for the factory alarm and will give virtually everything you need. Looks like that other Hurricane will arrive in next 2 days, the last one was more of a slowicane. After a quick look you don't need to use any of your leads with question marks. |
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howie ll
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| More comments:- You wont need the blue, I believe trunk and door contacts are common, also where you've joined the door contact, make sure that works for both doors and trunk, ie meter red wire to 12volt + constant, meter black lead to green at alarm, with meter set to 20VDC, should read 12volts+ when either front doors or trunk lid is open. Also dome light; if green picks up all doors, connect the black/white to the alarm's green, the other black/white solder to your black ground lead. Grey goes to a hood switch (can't remember if they provide you with one). |
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t&t tech
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| Posted: September 01, 2009 at 3:16 PM - IP Logged |
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Yes that picture he provided was a picture of two diodes, they can be used to connect the light flash output to the hazards, Also your wiring notes say five wire for the door locks and not negative trigger like you stated, i have never personally done a 2004 celica so someone else will have to verify this.
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robertas123
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| Posted: September 01, 2009 at 3:49 PM - IP Logged |
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Hi guys, thanks for a help. I am reading some other threads regarding this alarm so something is clear for now, but not everything.
t&t tech
"Also your wiring notes say five wire for the door locks and not negative trigger like you stated"
Where did you find "five wire for door locks"? In wiring info i found only negative pol for door trigger? Or i understood bad your statement? |
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t&t tech
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My bad, sorry, i just re-read you are correct they are negative trigger! Also i install this alarm regularly, it's an excellent choice, what are you unclear on, maybe i can help you clarify things, instead of confusing you like i did earlier.  . Cheers.
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robertas123
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| Posted: September 01, 2009 at 4:35 PM - IP Logged |
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Thats ok t&t tech :)
Wires that im not sure about:
Primary Harness (H1) 12 Pin
H1/1 Red/White (-) 200mA Channel 2 output (trunk release) >> Trunk/Hatch Pin / lt. Green / - / trunk light or BCM (or Trunk/Hatch Release, where it is?) there is no trunk release wire in wiring info only trunk pin.
H1/4 Yellow (+) switched Ignition Input, Zone 5 >> Ignition / black/orange / (+) / ignition harness is it correct?
H1/6 Violet (+) Door trigger input, Zone 3 >> leave disconnected ???
H1/7 Blue (-) Instant trigger Input (trunk input/shunt), Zone 1 >> Trunk/Hatch Pin / lt. Green / - / trunk light or BCM (not sure!) howie II mentioned that i do not need this wire
H1/10 White/blue (-) 200mA Channel 3 programmable Output >> ??
H1/12 Orange (-) 500mA Ground-When-Armed Output >> ???
Auxiliary Harness (H2) 8 Pin
Im thinking about nothing to wire here.
Door Lock Harness 7 Pin
Looks everything ok to me. Any comments?
Immobilizer Wire Connection 3 Pin
OK too i think..
Any diodes needed anywhere?
I would be very gradeful if you could help me with these. |
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t&t tech
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That red/white wire - unused if you have no electronic trunk release, ignition wire- correct, violet wire- correct, that blue wire, you have to verify with a meter that the door trigger wire is seeing the trunk as well, if it is then no need for this wire, white/blue unused, orange- if you would like to have additional immobilisation points this wire would provide you with a means of doing this via relays, or you can also use it for window roll on arm should u so desire (you have to get the modules though). Spot on with the H2 harness Looks ok at the door lock harness to me too Immobiliser also looks good, no diodes needed unless you're doing indicators insteaad of parking lights.
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t&t tech
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Also using the normally open wiring for the immobiliser is a neat way to complicate things should a would be thief be able to dismantle the unit from the harnesses easily, it prevents the car from starting should either power or ground be removed from the brain of the alarm,
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