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I am upgrading my entire charging system with a 220 amp alternator, 0 gauge stinger hpm wire, a 500 amp pac isolator, and non fused stinger 0 gauge power and ground blocks, with two kinectic 600 batteries hooked up inline to a soundstorm f4400 (voice) and Hifonics Brutus Bxi2607d (bass). I have two questions, can i mount the isolator in the back with the amps or does it need to be close to the alternator? And how high of a fuse to I put before and after the isolator? the soundstorm amp has two 40 amp fuses and the hifonics has no fuses but is rated at 250 amp internal?
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The isolator can be anywhere. (How are you isolating the kinetics from each other?)

You need a fuse at the main battery and one for each aux (kinetic). (I'd suggest one fuse each rather than a shared fuse.)

The fuse rating cannot be larger than the cable rating or the smallest link. A smaller fuse can be used to protect the batteries.


PS - the PAC 500 is merely a relay isn't it? It has no voltage sensing etc? So are you adding the UIBI to control it?
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so with the isolator i need the "battery guard" or monitor, and i have a regular stock battery up front that i am trying to isolate from the two kinectic batteries (one for each amp)  in the back which are both hooked up to a t-block

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Yeah, that's what I was asking. But you don't need a monitor or battery guard if you have a charge light - it does the same thing only better. That "existing" charge light costs you nothing, and you may just need a smaller relay to drive the PAC's coil.
The same can be used to isolate the kinetics from each other unless you do that manually...
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Whats the best way to separate the kinetics? And to go back to the fuse ratings, since I'm running 0 gauge throughout my entire charge system all my fuses should be 300 amps? And for the isolator, how would I wire the charge light and relay? It has the two positive posts, one ground post and the remote turn on?
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Kinetics - the same way (the smaller "buffer" relay can act as a master to energise all others. You can add a manual switch to parallel when not charging, and an optional low-voltage-switch/battery protector that isolates the batteries at your desired disconnect voltage.


What model or type alternator do you have?
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I recently upgraded to a 220 amp alternator, heres the link:

  http://http://www./itm/HIGH-OUTPUT-220AMP-ALTERNATOR-Chevrolet-Monte-Carlo-3-8L-2000-2001-/280784376182?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AChevrolet%7CYear%3A2000&vxp=mtr&hash=item41600d9176

so the way I plan to run my wires is on 0 guage wire from the alternator directly to my starting battery, and then another 0 gauge  wire from the alternator to a 300 amp fuse block, from there to my isolator, from the isolator to the  the t-block, and then from the two outputs of the t-block will be another 300 amp fuse block (each side) right before each kinetic battery, and then the final stop would be to each amp (voice and bass). could you tell me if this setup would be accecptable?

0 Gauge wire being used : http://www./itm/400234976106?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

500 amp isolator: http://http://www./itm/PAC-500-AMP-PAC500-HIGH-CURRENT-RELAY-BATTERY-ISOLATOR-/360397703480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e9608938

Fuse blocks with 300 amp fuses: http://http://cgi./ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270893610867

T-blocks (power and ground):   http://www./itm/310279535874?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649http://

Kinetik batteries: http://www......com/item_7324_Kinetik-HC600-KHC600.html

Voice amp: http://www.....com/Soundstorm-Force-F4400-4-Channel-Amplifier_p_7016.html

Bass amp: http://www......com/item_9338_Hifonics-BXi2607D.html

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m1ndz21 - a quick look & search and I couldn't determine what connections that alternator has (other than +B & chassis-GND - we don't "count" those).

Does it have a single wire (D+ or L)?
If it has more, what are they (L & S? I, L, S? D & P?)?
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