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remember, most companies cheap out on the copper. if you use 10gauge its probably going to be a 10gauge jacket, with 12-14 gauge amount of copper. fuse accordingly

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yeah, you're not kidding on that!  Will do.
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Ok, guys, just for my understanding..can you explain why a relay is needed for the Pink/White for Ign 2 flex relay?  The Viper manual doesn't state anything about being 200mA and just goes on to say "thie wire is ffactory programmed as Ignition 2 and can be programmed as a 2nd accessory or as a 2nd starter".  It doesn't mention anyting about an external relay being needed.

Not that I don't believe you! I'm wondering why. :)

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You need the relay because you have both a 2nd Ignition as well as a 2nd Accessory according to the information you posted. There is a good possibility that the 2nd Accessory is only for powering the radio, etc and is not required for remote start, but without an actual schematic for the truck, or someone who knows for sure it is not required, I prefer to connect all ignition, accessory, and starter wires that are listed on a wire diagram. A $4-$5 relay and 5 extra minutes is worth it to me to help prevent possibly thousands in damages (ie many chevy trucks that can have transmission failure if the 2nd ignition is not powered).

The pink/white can only power one of the 2 additional circuits (2nd ignition & 2nd accessory) so the relay is required to power the other additional circuit.
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Ok, I get it.  The 2nd ign power the 2nd accessory in the truck.

I think I was going to wire that up incorrectly since there is no "2nd accessory output" on the RS harness.  I was going to connect the RS Pink / White Ign 2 flex output to the truck's Pink / Light Green Ign 2 wire (pin 30 on added relay).  From what you stated I'm thinking that it should connect to the truck's Pink / Yellow 14ga Accessory 2 wire (pin 30 on added relay).  If that's the case, I'm not clear on what to connect from the RS to the truck's Pink / Light Green 2nd Ign wire.

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The Pink/White off the r/s will go to your 2nd ignition wire on the truck. The 2nd accessory wire on the truck gets connected through a relay as follows:
Pin 85 - (-)200ma 2nd accessory output
Pin 86 - 12v constant fused
Pin 87 - 12v constant fused
Pin 30 - 2nd Accessory wire in truck.

The (-) 200ma 2nd accessory output is the orange wire in this harness:

Viper remote start aux out 5 pin:

1. Pink / white flex relay control out - N/C
2. Orange access out - N/C
3. Violet starter output - N/C
4. Pink IGN 1 output - N/C
5. Blue status output - D2D (W2W - Blue / Whate - GWR idatalink)

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Oh, man, I must have completely misread that from the 1st time you said it.  It's very clear now.  Although I would have still been looking for a 2nd accessory output not even thinking of using one off the aux harness.  Makes sense. 

I think I've got this thing nailed down pretty good.  Thanks for all the help!  I've learned a lot about this.  Once I get it all installed I'll post back with how she's doing.  Hopefully perfectly from the time everything gets power. :)

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