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ILuvItLoud
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| Posted: January 26, 2012 at 5:42 PM - IP Logged |
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Car is a 2009 Nissan Sentra.
Using Autopage RS.
Xpresskit DLPK W2W for bypass. Have to use W2W w/ this combo.
Problem:
Can't just get in car with the smart-key fob after remote start and turn the ignition switch. It is not recognizing the fob in the car it seems when in remote start. If I shutdown remote start and just enter car with fob in pocket like normal, without unhooking things, the car will recognize the fob in my pocket and I can start the car like normal.
Wired the DLPK up according to diagram on this page: http://www.xpresskit.com/Documents.aspx?productid=122
and click on "vH00.S00.D03"
What could my problem be??? |
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tedmond
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| Posted: January 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM - IP Logged |
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if its intellikey, make sure you have keysense hooked up, and you have the diode on the ignition line into the bcm. isolated from the ignition from the rs.
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ILuvItLoud
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| Posted: January 26, 2012 at 6:18 PM - IP Logged |
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Yep. It is intelli-key.
I have the keysense hooked up, it will not remote start without that.
I have the diodes in place according to the diagram I listed.
I did a quick search on key takeover and it seems people have problems with the DLPK on Nissans...everybody just suggests using a different company's bypass. It is said to work from the company that makes it and lists specific instructions for a myriad of cars from Nissan/Infinity with intelli-key. So, I don't believe the notion it doesn't work...any ideas? |
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offroadzj
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| Posted: January 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM - IP Logged |
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In my opinion Fortin makes the best bypass for the nissan intelligent keys. Take a look in the pictorial section for a nissan I just did recently with the Evo-All. Not sure if its the same on that, but with the fortin you have to physically press unlock on the aftermarket remote before entering the vehicle in order for the key takeover to work. Maybe try that???
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ILuvItLoud
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| Posted: January 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM - IP Logged |
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I really appreciate the suggestions!
Still hoping someone out there has dealt with a 2007-2011 Sentra w/ intelli-key or closely related vehicle using the DLPK W2W.
Looks like I may just leave it this way in my brother's car until it warms up, then try a different bypass.
Let this be a lesson to someone who has been out of the game for a while, use the search function to look for problems with your components before starting!!!
Thanks again everyone. |
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offroadzj
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Did you try unlocking before getting in to see if it makes a difference?
Also, I took a look at the install diagram. Did you connect BOTH keysenses? And for the key that you had to keep in the car, did you use the valet key? Did you connect the ignition from the DLPK to the vehicle ignition wire? Finally did you connect the door trigger input?
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tedmond
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i used the evo can when i did the sentra regular key and intellikey. both worked flawlessly.
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offroadzj
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Yea, I used the evo-all on the nissan intellikey I did and it made everything a breeze. OP, you may just be better off saving your time (and subsequent headaches) and find yourself a different bypass.
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Chris Luongo
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| Posted: January 27, 2012 at 5:30 AM - IP Logged |
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We've done them where I work with no takeover capability for years; most customers don't seem to mind. Get in the car, hit the brake, car dies, restart by hand, drive away.
I agree that if it were my car, I'd prefer to have takeover not only for convenience, but to reduce wear on the car's starter motor too.
Anyway, I feel a little bit bad about grabbing technical information for one manufacturer's product and then using it on another....but I suppose we all do it.
Go to www.idatalink.com or www.flashlogic.com, find a product for this Sentra, and look up the installation guide.
In the guide you'll find a wire at the Intelligent Key module (behind glove box) that they want you to interrupt with a relay using the ground-when-running signal from the remote starter.
They don't explain very well how to test the wire in the installation guide, but it's ignition. If you can just make sure that the Intelligent Key module doesn't see ignition during remote start, you'll be able to do takeover.
I've only done this exactly once, and it added a good amount of time to my installation, but it worked. I don't know if I would do it for every customer without charging a little extra, but if it's your brother's car, I would do it too.
Tips:
---If your Autopage unit only has one ground-when-running output, make sure to split it with two diodes: one diode's output going to your bypass, the other going to the relay.
---Does your Autopage have a separate ignition output? No, not the heavy-gauge ignition wire you already connected to the car at the steering column....does it have a small-gauge ignition output? The install guide might say that it's to be connected to an aftermarket alarm or something like that?
Anyway, if you have that output, it should put out ignition when you turn the car on with the key, but NOT put out anything if you start by remote. (Test the wire if you're not sure.)
So if you have that wire and it behaves the way it should, you can skip the relay.
Just cut the wire in half at the module behind the glove box, tape up the "car" end, and on the "module" end, connect the ignition output from your remote starter. |
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delco_installer
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I have done a few Nissan Intelli-key installs, I always use Autopage and Idatalink products togeather always works flawlessly plus not nearly as much wiring but what needs to happen is you need to locate the Intelli key unit this is found behind the glove box or near the gas pedal on this car, you need to wire a relay so that when you attempt to do your secure take over the ignition will allow you to take over prior to stepping on the brake, to do this you need to wire #85 to GWR on the remote start #86 to 12+ #87a to the vehicle side of the Intelli key wire and #30 to the connector side of the intelli key wire, there is a diagram on iDatalink.com with all of the wire colors and locations. But what i have noticed with many Nissan's is that you need to pay attention to the pin number and not so much the wire color. This will solve your problem for sure.
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