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Subject Topic: 01 f150 viper 5501 idatalink ads tb issue

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Installed my Viper 5501 today with the iDatalink ADS-TB-FM...All works fine other than the keys have to be in the ignition for the remote start to work. The bypass unit gives a pulsing green light when the ignition is off, on, and when starter is engaging. All other remote start/keyless entry functions are working correctly. Can't find any troubleshooting information on iDatalinks site. The wiring diagram is pretty straight forward for the F150 but I could screw it up :)

How I have it set up now:

Bypass > Location > Vehicle

Pink      > Ignition > Dark Blue / Lt. Green
White/Blue > GWR > Orange (RS Unit)
Red > Constant 12V > Yellow (with power supply to RS unit)
Black > Ground > Ground
Tx > pin 4 > White / Lt. Green
Rx > pin 3 > Grey / Orange

I checked and double checked all solder points and the ground. I've tried connecting the White/Blue to an actual ground just before hitting the remote start rather than using the GWR off the RS unit. No luck there.   

Another thing...I bought the iDatalink off eBay, I live in Alaska and not really sure if anyone up here has the equipment to reprogram the idatalink.

Thanks for any help,

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When you programmed it to the truck did it do what the instructions say it needed to do?? Can you do a module reset and try programming again???
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White/Blue > GWR > Orange (RS Unit)

thats the wrong ground when running wire.

the white/blue will go to DARK BLUE on the remote start. its called the STATUS (-) wire. or 2nd Defogger output (-)
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X2 with Ted.  As long as the seller flashed the ADS TB module with the ADS TB FM firmware, you should be good to go.  Only one working key needed for programming to the truck.
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the orange on a viper is ground when armed( for a kill switch type situation) ground when running is a blue in the 4pin harness that has short wires, 1 blue, 1 orange 1 purple 1 pink
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I'll try switching the GWR to the blue status (-) from the RS and post results...thanks.
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If you haven't used them before, a few tips on the iDatalink module.

Before use, perform the Factory Reset procedure.  Follow that with the Installation Mode selection procedure ( two blinks
for Standard W2W connections ) and lock it in.  Then, program to the truck with the ignition key, watching the module LED light. 

You can start over with a Factory Reset as many times as you need.


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Kreg357....this is the first RS I have ever done, so yeah I'm new to the Idatalink. I was under the impression it had to be "flashed" to the model of truck? Am I understanding correctly that I can do a reset without worrying about needing to download firmware? I don't have the PC interface cable or the password for using idatalinks download program....thanks again. I should have time tonight to get back under the dash.
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The ADS TB module is a Multi Series and can be flashed with many different firmwares to support many different vehicle applications.  For your F150, ADS TB FM is the correct firmware.  This firmware flash is done with the ADS USB cable and registered access to the iDatalink WEB site.  Once flashed, the firmware remains resident on that module.  The module can be re-flashed if necessary with a newer version (update) or even a different version ( for another vehicle ) using the same process.

Once the module is flashed with the firmware using the ADS USB cable, it is OK to do a Factory Reset.  The loaded firmware stays intact.  The reset just brings it back to the original condition after the module firmware flash.  Follow the #7903 Install Guide for the Reset, Install Mode selection and programming.

Without the ADS USB cable and access, you won't be able to verify the actual firmware on your module.  Hopefully it was flashed with the correct ( TB ) firmware.


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Everyone....I couldn't have done it without you! Thanks! So, I hadn't ever done the program procedure at all on the ads module, helps when you don't attempt your first RS install on 4 hours sleep...Anyhow, switched the bypass GWR from the orange RS GWA to the blue/white (-) status on the RS, did the factory restore, then programmed with the single key...Works perfectly (insert banana man here)! Thanks again...Keep an eye out for the $ under my name shortly. While I was under there I went ahead and switched the accessory wire from my radio to the heater as I intended the first time around.

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