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Installing 5704 Viper in my 2004 F150.  Unable to get an installation manual from DEI as I am not a dealer. 
I did not want anybody hacking into my wiring so i want to do it myself.  I have referenced the
5901 and the 5701 manuals to identify as much wiring as possible.  I have attached a chart of each
connection that i have made on the vehicle, and i am still having trouble with some of the 24 pin connecter wires. Does anybody have any knowledge of this installation and could advise me on the connections i have
chosen for each tie in point.

Remote Start Heavy Gauge Connector (10Pin)    
# Comments                                                                         Viper            F150
H3/1 (+) Inginition 1 INPUT/OUTPUT                               Pink             Ignition Harness (Lt Green/Purple)
H3/2 Fused 30amp Ingnition 2 / Flex Relay input 87    Red/White 12 volt Constant
H3/3 (+) Accessory Output                                                 Orange        Ignition Harness (Black/Lt green)
H3/4 (+) Starter Output (Car side of starter kill)              Violet           Cut Red/Lt Blue. Violet to Starter
H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key side of starter kill)                 Green          Cut Red/Lt Blue.  Green to switch
H3/6 (+) Fused 30amp Ignition 1 Input (12V battery)     Red             12 volt Constant
H3/7 (+) Ingnition 2/ Flex Relay Output                              Pink/White    Not Used    
H3/8 (+) Flex Relay Input 87A key side                              Pink/Black    Not Used 
H3/9 (+) Fused 30amp Accesory/Starter Input                Red/Black    Drk. Blue/Lt. Green
H3/10 NO CONNECTION                                                   NONE           NONE 
        
Main Harness Connector (6 Pin)    
# Comments                                                                           Viper                         F150
H1/1 12 DC Constant Input                                                   Red                          Battery
H1/2 Chasis Ground                                                               Black                       Ground Connection
H1/3 Siren                                                                                 Brown                      Red wire from Siren
H1/4 Parking Light Issolation Wire                                       White/Brown         Cut BR - White/Brown to switch
H1/5 Parking Light Output                                                      White                      Cut BR - White to vehilce
H1/6 500Ma ground when output                                         Orange                    ???? Not Used
    
Door Lock (3 Pin)     
# Comments                                                                            Viper                            F150
1 (-) 500mA Unlock Output                                                     Blue                         Pink/Lt Green
2 Not Used                                                                                Empty                      Not Used
3 (-) 500mA Lock Output                                                         Green                      Pink/Yellow
    
Auxilary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (24 Pin)    
# Comments                                                                            Viper                              F150
H2/1 (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex Control Output                       Pink/White                   ????
H2/2 (-) Neutral Saftey Input                                                  Black/White                   Ground
H2/3 (-) 200mA 2nd Status Rear Defogger Output           Blue/White                   Not Used
H2/4 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Disable Ouput                        Green/Black                 Not Used
H2/5 (-) 200mA Trunk Release                                             Red/White                    Not Used
H2/6 (-) Door Trigger Input (N/C or N/O)                              Green                           ??? Black/Yellow
H2/7 (-) 200mA Dome Light Supervision Output                Black/Yellow               Black/Lt Blue BCM
H2/8 (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output                                        Brown/Black                Dark Blue
H2/9 (-) 200mA Status Output                                                Dark Blue                     Black/Pink 
H2/10 (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output                                         Pink                                ????
H2/11 (-) 200mA Aux 3 Output                                                White/Black                  Not Used
H2/12 (+) Door Trigger Input                                                   Violet                              ????
H2/13 (-) 200mA Aux 1 Output                                                 White/Violet                  Not Used
H2/14 (-) 200mA Aux 2 Output                                                  Violet/Black                  Not Used
H2/15 (-) 200mA Aux 4 Output                                                Orange/Black                 Not Used
H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown Input                                             Brown                              Lt Green 
H2/17 (-) Hood Pin Output (N/C or N/O)                                 Grey                                Hood Switch into Truck
H2/18 (-) 200mA Starter Output                                               Violet/Yellow                  ?????
H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input (N/C or N/O)            Blue                             ?????  Not Used
H2/20 (-) Diesel Wait to Start Input                                          Grey/Black                    Not Used 
H2/21 (-) Remote Start/ Turbo Timer Activation Input          White/Blue                    ???? Not Used 
H2/22 (-) 200mA Accesory Output                                           Orange                             Not Used 
H2/23 Tachometer Input                                                            Violet/White                    Not Used Virtual
H2/24 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Output                                       Green/White                    Not Used


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There is a Viper 5904 in the download section of this site that might be of help to you.
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Corrected H3 connections for the 2004 F150
H3/1 (+) Inginition 1 IN/OUT                           Pink                  Dark Blue/Light Green
H3/2 (+) Fused 30amp Ingnition 2                Red/White       Not Used
H3/3 (+) Accessory Output                             Orange              Black/Lt green
H3/4 (+) Starter Output (Car side)                 Violet                Cut Red/Lt Blue. Violet to Starter
H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key side)                    Green               Cut Red/Lt Blue.  Green to switch
H3/6 (+) Fused 30amp Ignition 1 Input        Red                  12 volt Constant  (Lt Green/Purple)
H3/7 (+) Ingnition 2/ Flex Relay Output         Pink/White       Not Used   
H3/8 (+) Flex Relay Input 87A key side         Pink/Black       Not Used
H3/9 (+) Fused 30amp Acc/Starter Input      Red/Black      12 volt Constant  (Lt Green/Purple)
H3/10 NO CONNECTION                               NONE              NONE

I believe there are multiple +12V constant wires at the ignition switch harness.  ( Might not all be Light Green/Purple.)


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Main Harness Connector (6 Pin)  corrections : 
H1 connector                                              Viper                        F150
H1/1 12 DC Constant Input                     Red                        Light Green/Purple @ Ignition Harness
H1/2 Chasis Ground                                Black                      Ground Connection
H1/3 Siren                                                  Brown                     Red wire from Siren
H1/4 Parking Light Issolation Wire       White/Brown          N.U.
H1/5 Parking Light Output                      White                       Brown(+) @ Headlight Switch   ***Viper jumper/fuse set to (+)
H1/6 500Ma ground when output          Orange                   N.U.

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Auxilary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (24 Pin)   
H2 connector                                                          Viper                              F150
H2/1 (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex Con                        Pink/White                    N.U.
H2/2 (-) Neutral Saftey Input                                 Black/White                  Ground if Auto Trans
H2/3 (-) 200mA 2nd Status Rear Defog Out      Blue/White                   Not Used
H2/4 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Disable Ouput       Green/Black                Not Used
H2/5 (-) 200mA Trunk Release                            Red/White                   Not Used
H2/6 (-) Door Trigger Input (N/C or N/O)             Green                          Black/Yellow and Black/Pink w/diode isolation
H2/7 (-) 200mA Dome Light Supervision Out    Black/Yellow              Black/Lt Blue BCM ( not necessary if lights come on with unlock )
H2/8 (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output                      Brown/Black               Dark Blue @ 6 Pin plug right of steering column
H2/9 (-) 200mA Status Output                              Dark Blue                   To GWR on bypass module
H2/10 (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output                       Pink                             N.U.
H2/11 (-) 200mA Aux 3 Output                              White/Black                Not Used
H2/12 (+) Door Trigger Input                                Violet                           N.U.
H2/13 (-) 200mA Aux 1 Output                             White/Violet                Not Used
H2/14 (-) 200mA Aux 2 Output                             Violet/Black                 Not Used
H2/15 (-) 200mA Aux 4 Output                            Orange/Black              Not Used
H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown Input                        Brown                           Lt Green @ Brake Switch
H2/17 (-) Hood Pin Output (N/C or N/O)           Grey                              Hood Switch into Truck
H2/18 (-) 200mA Starter Output                         Violet/Yellow                N.U.
H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger In               Blue                              Not Used
H2/20 (-) Diesel Wait to Start Input                   Grey/Black                    Not Used
H2/21 (-) Remote Start/ Turbo Timer                White/Blue                   Not Used
H2/22 (-) 200mA Accesory Output                     Orange                          Not Used
H2/23 (AC) Tachometer Input                            Violet/White                   any wire not Red or Red/Lt Green @ any F.I.
H2/24 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Output               Green/White                   Not Used

A couple of notes:

What are you using as a bypass module?  Your truck should have the Ford PATS3 immobilizer system.
Additionally you will need two working, non-clone, ignition keys to program the bypass module.

Domelight Supervision may not be necessary if the interior lights come on with an unlock.

For best results and reliable remote starts, run in Tach Mode and connect to a F.I.   Virtual
Tach doesn't work that well in cold climates.


 


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I can't thank everyone enough for all the information. It is greatly appreciatted.  

I do have to ignition keys. What bypass module do you recommend I purchase for this system? 


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There are several good "Data type" bypass options for your truck.

DEI makes the PKALL

Fortin makes the Key-Override-All

iDatalink makes the ADS TBSL KO

All are very good modules and cost starts at $30 or so.

My favorite is the DEI 1100F.  It has been discontinued but remains available at various
"online" sellers for about $15.  It is actually made by iDatalink and similar to the
ADS TBSL KO ( but only capable of doing Fords ).  Very reliable and easy to program but
must be connected in the W2W mode ( only 3 wires to R/S ). 


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I have used the Fortin and the DEI 1100f on Ford vehicles. Never had an issue with either of them. Simple to use and connect.
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Is the wiring the same for a 2007 supercrew? I was hoping to do a diy but this seems outta my league. And I cant find any installer close enough that doesnt charge an arm and a leg or that has a reputable image either. I have been told not to go to best buy and some other places as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have the viper 5901 that was purchased online for christmas. I would like to add the 530t module for my front and rear windows and I need a bypass as well I think. I have both original keys from the dealership. Thanks again!
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If you aren't comfortable doing it, then do yourself a favor and don't. It may seem like an arm and a leg for installation, but it will be both arms and both legs if you damage your ECU or something else. There is a reason good installers charge a premium... you get what you pay for. if you decide to continue anyways, make your own thread. Hijacking another thread can get you banned from the site.
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