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tbone40 Joined: January 28, 2012 Location: Michigan, United States Posts: 2 |
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Installing 5704 Viper in my 2004 F150. Unable to get an installation manual from DEI as I am not a dealer. I did not want anybody hacking into my wiring so i want to do it myself. I have referenced the 5901 and the 5701 manuals to identify as much wiring as possible. I have attached a chart of each connection that i have made on the vehicle, and i am still having trouble with some of the 24 pin connecter wires. Does anybody have any knowledge of this installation and could advise me on the connections i have chosen for each tie in point.
Remote Start Heavy Gauge Connector (10Pin) # Comments Viper F150 H3/1 (+) Inginition 1 INPUT/OUTPUT Pink Ignition Harness (Lt Green/Purple) H3/2 Fused 30amp Ingnition 2 / Flex Relay input 87 Red/White 12 volt Constant H3/3 (+) Accessory Output Orange Ignition Harness (Black/Lt green) H3/4 (+) Starter Output (Car side of starter kill) Violet Cut Red/Lt Blue. Violet to Starter H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key side of starter kill) Green Cut Red/Lt Blue. Green to switch H3/6 (+) Fused 30amp Ignition 1 Input (12V battery) Red 12 volt Constant H3/7 (+) Ingnition 2/ Flex Relay Output Pink/White Not Used H3/8 (+) Flex Relay Input 87A key side Pink/Black Not Used H3/9 (+) Fused 30amp Accesory/Starter Input Red/Black Drk. Blue/Lt. Green H3/10 NO CONNECTION NONE NONE Main Harness Connector (6 Pin) # Comments Viper F150 H1/1 12 DC Constant Input Red Battery H1/2 Chasis Ground Black Ground Connection H1/3 Siren Brown Red wire from Siren H1/4 Parking Light Issolation Wire White/Brown Cut BR - White/Brown to switch H1/5 Parking Light Output White Cut BR - White to vehilce H1/6 500Ma ground when output Orange ???? Not Used Door Lock (3 Pin) # Comments Viper F150 1 (-) 500mA Unlock Output Blue Pink/Lt Green 2 Not Used Empty Not Used 3 (-) 500mA Lock Output Green Pink/Yellow Auxilary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (24 Pin) # Comments Viper F150 H2/1 (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex Control Output Pink/White ???? H2/2 (-) Neutral Saftey Input Black/White Ground H2/3 (-) 200mA 2nd Status Rear Defogger Output Blue/White Not Used H2/4 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Disable Ouput Green/Black Not Used H2/5 (-) 200mA Trunk Release Red/White Not Used H2/6 (-) Door Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Green ??? Black/Yellow H2/7 (-) 200mA Dome Light Supervision Output Black/Yellow Black/Lt Blue BCM H2/8 (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output Brown/Black Dark Blue H2/9 (-) 200mA Status Output Dark Blue Black/Pink H2/10 (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output Pink ???? H2/11 (-) 200mA Aux 3 Output White/Black Not Used H2/12 (+) Door Trigger Input Violet ???? H2/13 (-) 200mA Aux 1 Output White/Violet Not Used H2/14 (-) 200mA Aux 2 Output Violet/Black Not Used H2/15 (-) 200mA Aux 4 Output Orange/Black Not Used H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown Input Brown Lt Green H2/17 (-) Hood Pin Output (N/C or N/O) Grey Hood Switch into Truck H2/18 (-) 200mA Starter Output Violet/Yellow ????? H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Blue ????? Not Used H2/20 (-) Diesel Wait to Start Input Grey/Black Not Used H2/21 (-) Remote Start/ Turbo Timer Activation Input White/Blue ???? Not Used H2/22 (-) 200mA Accesory Output Orange Not Used H2/23 Tachometer Input Violet/White Not Used Virtual H2/24 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Output Green/White Not Used ___________________________________ T-Bone 40 |
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smokeman1 Joined: September 14, 2009 Location: Wisconsin, United States Posts: 514 |
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There is a Viper 5904 in the download section of this site that might be of help to you. ___________________________________ When all else fails, Read the Instructions |
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kreg357 Joined: January 30, 2009 Location: New York, United States Posts: 2,661 |
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Corrected H3 connections for the 2004 F150 H3/1 (+) Inginition 1 IN/OUT Pink Dark Blue/Light Green H3/2 (+) Fused 30amp Ingnition 2 Red/White Not Used H3/3 (+) Accessory Output Orange Black/Lt green H3/4 (+) Starter Output (Car side) Violet Cut Red/Lt Blue. Violet to Starter H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key side) Green Cut Red/Lt Blue. Green to switch H3/6 (+) Fused 30amp Ignition 1 Input Red 12 volt Constant (Lt Green/Purple) H3/7 (+) Ingnition 2/ Flex Relay Output Pink/White Not Used H3/8 (+) Flex Relay Input 87A key side Pink/Black Not Used H3/9 (+) Fused 30amp Acc/Starter Input Red/Black 12 volt Constant (Lt Green/Purple) H3/10 NO CONNECTION NONE NONE
I believe there are multiple +12V constant wires at the ignition switch harness. ( Might not all be Light Green/Purple.)
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kreg357 Joined: January 30, 2009 Location: New York, United States Posts: 2,661 |
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Main Harness Connector (6 Pin) corrections : H1 connector Viper F150 H1/1 12 DC Constant Input Red Light Green/Purple @ Ignition Harness H1/2 Chasis Ground Black Ground Connection H1/3 Siren Brown Red wire from Siren H1/4 Parking Light Issolation Wire White/Brown N.U. H1/5 Parking Light Output White Brown(+) @ Headlight Switch ***Viper jumper/fuse set to (+) H1/6 500Ma ground when output Orange N.U.
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kreg357 Joined: January 30, 2009 Location: New York, United States Posts: 2,661 |
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Auxilary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (24 Pin) H2 connector Viper F150 H2/1 (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex Con Pink/White N.U. H2/2 (-) Neutral Saftey Input Black/White Ground if Auto Trans H2/3 (-) 200mA 2nd Status Rear Defog Out Blue/White Not Used H2/4 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Disable Ouput Green/Black Not Used H2/5 (-) 200mA Trunk Release Red/White Not Used H2/6 (-) Door Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Green Black/Yellow and Black/Pink w/diode isolation H2/7 (-) 200mA Dome Light Supervision Out Black/Yellow Black/Lt Blue BCM ( not necessary if lights come on with unlock ) H2/8 (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output Brown/Black Dark Blue @ 6 Pin plug right of steering column H2/9 (-) 200mA Status Output Dark Blue To GWR on bypass module H2/10 (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output Pink N.U. H2/11 (-) 200mA Aux 3 Output White/Black Not Used H2/12 (+) Door Trigger Input Violet N.U. H2/13 (-) 200mA Aux 1 Output White/Violet Not Used H2/14 (-) 200mA Aux 2 Output Violet/Black Not Used H2/15 (-) 200mA Aux 4 Output Orange/Black Not Used H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown Input Brown Lt Green @ Brake Switch H2/17 (-) Hood Pin Output (N/C or N/O) Grey Hood Switch into Truck H2/18 (-) 200mA Starter Output Violet/Yellow N.U. H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger In Blue Not Used H2/20 (-) Diesel Wait to Start Input Grey/Black Not Used H2/21 (-) Remote Start/ Turbo Timer White/Blue Not Used H2/22 (-) 200mA Accesory Output Orange Not Used H2/23 (AC) Tachometer Input Violet/White any wire not Red or Red/Lt Green @ any F.I. H2/24 (-) 200mA OEM Alarm Output Green/White Not Used
A couple of notes:
What are you using as a bypass module? Your truck should have the Ford PATS3 immobilizer system. Additionally you will need two working, non-clone, ignition keys to program the bypass module.
Domelight Supervision may not be necessary if the interior lights come on with an unlock.
For best results and reliable remote starts, run in Tach Mode and connect to a F.I. Virtual Tach doesn't work that well in cold climates.
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tbone40 Joined: January 28, 2012 Location: Michigan, United States Posts: 2 |
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I can't thank everyone enough for all the information. It is greatly appreciatted.
I do have to ignition keys. What bypass module do you recommend I purchase for this system? ___________________________________ T-Bone 40 |
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kreg357 Joined: January 30, 2009 Location: New York, United States Posts: 2,661 |
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There are several good "Data type" bypass options for your truck.
DEI makes the PKALL
Fortin makes the Key-Override-All
iDatalink makes the ADS TBSL KO
All are very good modules and cost starts at $30 or so.
My favorite is the DEI 1100F. It has been discontinued but remains available at various "online" sellers for about $15. It is actually made by iDatalink and similar to the ADS TBSL KO ( but only capable of doing Fords ). Very reliable and easy to program but must be connected in the W2W mode ( only 3 wires to R/S ). ___________________________________ Soldering is fun! |
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smokeman1 Joined: September 14, 2009 Location: Wisconsin, United States Posts: 514 |
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I have used the Fortin and the DEI 1100f on Ford vehicles. Never had an issue with either of them. Simple to use and connect. ___________________________________ When all else fails, Read the Instructions |
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mccleader26 Joined: January 14, 2012 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 1 |
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| Is the wiring the same for a 2007 supercrew? I was hoping to do a diy but this seems outta my league. And I cant find any installer close enough that doesnt charge an arm and a leg or that has a reputable image either. I have been told not to go to best buy and some other places as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have the viper 5901 that was purchased online for christmas. I would like to add the 530t module for my front and rear windows and I need a bypass as well I think. I have both original keys from the dealership. Thanks again! |
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offroadzj Joined: June 03, 2005 Location: New York, United States Posts: 1,240 |
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If you aren't comfortable doing it, then do yourself a favor and don't. It may seem like an arm and a leg for installation, but it will be both arms and both legs if you damage your ECU or something else. There is a reason good installers charge a premium... you get what you pay for. if you decide to continue anyways, make your own thread. Hijacking another thread can get you banned from the site.
just my .02 ___________________________________ Kenny
Former Installation Manager
Circuit City Roadshop
Store #3160
Albany, NY 12205 |
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