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I have been in my garage for hours trying to figure this thing out. 2005 3.5 Nissan Altima (AT), installing a Python 533 with a Xpresskit DB-ALL. The DB-ALL unit has been flashed by an authorized dealer for the use in the Altima. It seems to be working correctly, Door Locks, etc. But, the remote start is nothing. I have the two units connected via D2D and all connections seem to be correct...EXCEPT...the second starter wire. I have scoured the net and cannot get a definitive answer as to how this gets connected. Any help would be VERY apreciated as I am sitting in the garage as I type this, disgusted that I am at the road block. Thanks in advance for any/all help!

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Not familiar with the Python 533.  Can't find an install guide either.

Does it have a "Flex Relay" output?  Are you already using it on the ACC2 wire?

Does the Python have an output called (-) 200mA Starter Output or something like it?


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I'm thinking your Python 533 might be like the Viper 5301 series...

2005 Altima
STARTER 2   BLACK/YELLOW (+)    @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

If the Python has a Violet (-) Starter output, use a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay wired as follows :

Relay Pin 85 to Python Violet (-) 200mA Starter Output
Relay Pin 86 and Pin 87 to +12V Constant fused at 20 Amps
Relay Pin 30 to Altima Starter2 Black/Yellow
Relay Pin 87A   not used


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this vehicle has 2 starter wires, 1 ignition, 1 acc.

use a relay

85 - second start (-) from unit
86 - constant 12v
87 - constant 12v
30 - second start wire

i think the flex output is default for ignition, but can only be programmed for ign or acc.
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It also goes by Python 5303 if that helps in location the installation guide. I don't see anything called "Flex Relay" output.

The Heavy Gauge Harness:

1. Purple - Starter Output to Starter (Starter Side)
2. Green - Starter Input From Ignition (Key Side)
3. Red - (+) 30A High Current 12V Input
4. Orange - Output to Accessory Circuit
5. Pink - Output to Primary Ignition Circuit
6. Red - (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input
7. Pink/White - Output to Second Ignition Circuit
8. Red/White - (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input

Currently (and this is where the problem is, I think), Orange wire is connected to the Black/Yellow - Starter 2 wire. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Any other details I can provide to solve this, let me know. Thank you..again!
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Thanks guys,

as far as the relay goes, this is where I am confused...the Purple wire is currently connected to the Black/Red Starter wire in the Altima.
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Yes, the heavy gauge Purple wire goes to the Black/Red wire, but is there a thin gauge Purple wire called (-) 200mA Starter Output from the Python?

1. Purple - Starter Output to Starter (Starter Side)        Black/Red cut vehicle side
2. Green - Starter Input From Ignition (Key Side)         Black/Red cut ignition switch side
3. Red - (+) 30A High Current 12V Input                       Green
4. Orange - Output to Accessory Circuit                        Red
5. Pink - Output to Primary Ignition Circuit                    Black/Red
6. Red - (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input                    Green
7. Pink/White - Output to Second Ignition Circuit         N.U.
8. Red/White - (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input          Green

There are two Black/Red wires at the ignition switch.  Use a Digital Multi Meter to determine which is the Ignition and which is the Starter1.


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In the "Relay Satellite 4-pin connector" there is a Purple (-) 200mA Starter Relay TURN ON.

Is this the one that should work and be connected to the relay?
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yes it is.
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Thank you very much for everyone's help. I'll take a stab at this after work and post the outcome!
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