how would you rate this?

http://www.sonicelectrnix.com/item_1998_Visonik+V103BP.html# Still deciding what to get, any opinions of this? or this... http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=208250&i=700RTP4512&c=3&tp=442&avf=N

Well, I'd avoid the Visonik like the plague, louder than crap, with low power availability, but can you say "one note wonder"? ZERO sound quality down that road, I guarantee it! The MTX package you linked to won't come CLOSE to performing like the Dayton with 300WRMS I linked you to yesterday. The Dayton package'll sound TONS better, too! If SQ is even remotely a goal for you, don't buy anything "pre-loaded". You said you'd be willing to build your own enclosure... Stick with that option, otherwise if you go with the MTX package, you'll be throwing good money away, IMO. Also remember, that you WILL get what you pay for! A 99 dollar bandpass enclosure is gonna SOUND like a 99 dollar bandpass enclosure!It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."