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manuel1986 
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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 6:40 PM / IP Logged  
Hello guys,
Well I'm having a major annoying problem. Which there is a million threads here. which I basically read them all and tried all the methods I read about.I get the engine whine noise. The craziest and weirdiest thing about it is. I have a 4 channel amp which only they're certain speakers who are doing it not all of them are. just the two selenium tweeters and my selenium 8"woofer and there is also like a popping sound coming from the speakers not real loud but they sounds more or less like pop corn popping. This is a run down of my system.
Three amps, Clarion crossover and clarion Equalizer
Headunit is a Alpine Cda 9886
Kicker Kx 850.4 - I have two 10" mid woofers to one channel bridged and the other channel. I have two 6" beyma loudspeakers and two tweeters.
Alpine MRP M1000 pushing a Kicker L7
Hifonics 440.4 pushing one 8" selenium bridged and the other channel I have two Selenium tweeters
Big 3 upgrade with zero gauge
2 distribution blocks one for ground and one for power
The way I have everything connected is as follows. From behind the headunit I have a set of mids/highs RCA going to the head unit to the main input in the Equalizer and for the sub, from the headunit to the low pass in the crossover. From the equalizer to the crossover I have a RCA running to its input,from the crossover to the amps. With the hifonics amp I'm running the RCA output to my kickers input to power it up.
This is what I have already done to try and fix my problem.
I ran a separate ground to the Kicker amp, checked it out still had the problem, I went to the Equalizer and I re-grounded it to the chassis. I re-grounded and sanded the main Ground to the distribution block. I checked all my RCA they are all brand new. I grounded my radio to the chassis as well. Remote wire is ran to a relay which I doubt that matters. I ran the kicker amp with no RCA splitter and still did the same. When I turn my lights on and fogs the noise gets louder and when I put the AC on it gets ever louder. I hope someone can help cause, I ran out of ideas and everywhere I read tells me the same things.
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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 7:27 PM / IP Logged  
If you turn the gain adjustment of every amplifier all the way down, do you still hear the noise?
manuel1986 
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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 7:43 PM / IP Logged  
If I'm not mistaken no it does not do it. but will double check tomorrow if anything
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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 8:26 PM / IP Logged  
Turn the gains up on the channels that are making the noise.  When you begin hearing the noise, back them down so you do not hear it.  Adjust other gains to match the desired level,
manuel1986 
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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 8:29 PM / IP Logged  
Alright, Thank you very much I hope this will work. I'll post back tomorrow.
manuel1986 
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Posted: February 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM / IP Logged  
So today all day for the 3rd day in a role I decided to find this problem and i have still not found it. It's just one of my amps out of three that is giving me problems which is is engine whine noise, out of one RCA terminal in the amp makes the engine noise extremely loud and this is running directly from the headunit ontop of my interior to the kicker amp, Even with the gain all the way down the high pitch out of the one RCA input is really loud. The other RCA input the kicker amp doesn't do it as loud and when the gain is down it doesn't do the hit pitch engine noise. Hope someone can help me.
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Unhook the speaker from the channel that is making the noise.  Using an ohm meter, make sure that neither wire has continuity to ground.  You have to disconnect the speaker from the amp.

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Posted: February 22, 2012 at 8:49 PM / IP Logged  
When you disconnect it goes away, I just installed a buddies amp and everything works just fine I guess I bought a used defected amp
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Posted: February 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM / IP Logged  
If it was to be the amp would anyone have an idea of what can it be ? I opened up and I really don't know much about boards but looking for swollen or burnt marks around the board i really dont see anything that catches my eye.
These are some pictures of my setup looks and some pictures I took of the kicker Board
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Posted: February 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM / IP Logged  

dealing with engine noise can be tricky or impossible. it could be something as simple as moving an rca over a few inches or having a better ground in one spot. i will tell you that ive had bad noise problems with those kicker amps but that doesnt seem like that is your problem. the easiest way to find the source of your noise is to start bypassing components one by one. bypass your crossover by connecting each amp directly to the EQ. if that doesnt get any results then bypass the EQ by going straight to the HU.  even if the noises dont completely go away, if you get any kind of change in how it sounds then it can be a clue telling you about what is wrong because the noise could be from multiple sources. the whining could be one thing and the popping sounds could be something completely different.

if the noise goes away completely when you turn the gains on your amps all the way down then that is a clue telling you that the problem is probably with your crossover or EQ or head unit or any connection between them. unplug things, wiggle connections, more wires around and listen for any kind of change in the noise while you do those things and you will eventually find the source. hope that helps

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