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ten9ty6 
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Posted: December 26, 2003 at 7:45 PM / IP Logged  
Can anyone recommend a remote start system without alarm that cover these items.
Customer will use factory alarm syster
wants remote start
wants rear defroster control by remote
wants window control by remote (up and down)
Wants sunroof control by remote
I need a unit that has multipul channels without an alarm set up. Any ideas?
-Ian
ck auto 
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Posted: December 26, 2003 at 10:40 PM / IP Logged  
hi check out the compustar 1fmaws i may have module number wrong but check out the compustar lineup.  the website is www.compustar.org
good luck
kirk
NaughtyLMnky 
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Posted: December 26, 2003 at 10:57 PM / IP Logged  

Maybe you could use this diagram to add on some extra channels to the usual single or double channel remote starters.  You can find this on this website's Relays, Special Apps page.

One Channel to Multiple Outputs
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ten9ty6 
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Posted: December 26, 2003 at 11:14 PM / IP Logged  
That's a great idea, but that wouldn't let the customer control the 4 different items. If I pussed the aux ch 1 button, 4 things would happen right?
-Ian
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Posted: December 26, 2003 at 11:18 PM / IP Logged  
It could, if you installed some simple toggle switches. But that is up to the customer to decide whether to go that route.
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NaughtyLMnky 
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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 11:07 AM / IP Logged  

It uses a little bit of ladder logic.  You can set it up to trigger a different output when the car is running than when it is not and things like that.  Not all would happen at the same time. 

I don't know if that will help because I think with most of the things this customer wants the car has to be turned on for all of them, right?  Unless you were to power the windows and sunroof through a relay connected to the remote start system.  You could maybe get away with hooking things up to control the defroster when the car is running and control the windows and sunroof on the same trigger when the car is shut off.  This way both the windows and sunroof would open at the same time.  I don't see a reason you wouldn't want your sunroof open and not your windows.

Otherwise, like Teken said, you can set it up to work for different outputs by physically switching toggle switches in the car.  That way you wouldn't be able to use the remote to control all of the features at the same time.  This would work too because I don't think you want to use your defroster in summer or your windows and sunroof in winter.

Both ways would seem to work for me.

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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 11:21 AM / IP Logged  
Does he want to use the factory remote? Here is what you tell him, "NO, not using the factory keyless entry remote". If you say this sentence then you will save you and him alot of headaches.
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ten9ty6 
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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 12:18 PM / IP Logged  
OK cool, you guys are really helping out. I've been thinking too "inside the box" The customer knows he can't use teh factory remote. I think my problem is solved. All windows close on "ground when armed."
Windows Open when Aux channel is depressed when car is off. Defroster activate when aux channel is depressed when car is started. This may just turn out!!!
NaughtyLMnky 
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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 2:58 PM / IP Logged  

Yeah, you don't want to use the factory remote.  I don't see why someone wants to stand on top of their hood to start or unlock their car with a remote.  It looks like things should work out.

ten9ty6 
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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 8:19 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, I need to go back to my first question. which remote starters without alarms would you recomed that have extra aux outputs. I've done some wiring diagrams with relays to lay out what I was trying above and it's fine exceot for this. The rear defroster needs a momentary pulse, the window roll downs need a timed pulse. I can't use two realys with switched and unswitched relays because i can't make a momentary pulse change to a latched or timed on command. ....clear as mud right? So anyway, re-read the first part I guess...hahah I'm confusing myself.
-Ian
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