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wireless momentary switch, air horns.

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Topic: wireless momentary switch, air horns.

Posted By: thooley17
Subject: wireless momentary switch, air horns.
Date Posted: February 08, 2013 at 3:33 PM

I have air horns installed on my car. The first setup I had just had a regular momentary switch and it worked fine. There were two wires- one for each lead of the switch. I wanted to make it wireless so I bought a new switch. This one has 6 leads to plug wires into (in+, com, in- on one side, nc, com, no, on the other side).
I only know basic wiring, and the closest I got to having it turn on the compressors was just having the relay in the switch set off. When I hit the wireless button, the switch throws but it doesnt turn on the compressors.
Can you please help me figure this out? I'm just getting confused. Do you think it would have something to do with the other relay for the horns?
Thanks



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Posted By: thooley17
Date Posted: February 08, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Oh, and any diagrams/ pictures would be great. Thanks again




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 08, 2013 at 4:56 PM
OK the switch is the transmitter, where's the receiver?
You've replaced the wire from switch to relay with what?
What's the point of it if the previous set-up worked fine?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: thooley17
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 12:21 PM
The switch it the reciever. there is a separate button on a key fob (wireless).
I wanted to make it wireless so I could basically scare people, ha.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 12:43 PM
OK, lets do this again, how were they wired originally please explain along with details of your vehicle, make model and year.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Not that the OP's intent is legal in this country...
I thought it was for the convenience of a wheel mounted button.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Here's the diagram if you have a POS (+) supply to your momentary switch:-

horns.bmp

And here's the diagram if you have a NEG (-) supply to your momentary switch:-

649_horns.bmp

NOTE; You're only using one side of that switch.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Let's not even go there, the lad should get out more.
I've always incorporated air horns into the factory horn wiring for convenience.
Let's hope that R/C switch is momentary shall we?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 1:40 PM
And that it's "secured" LOL! Maybe with a hood pin?

I did the same - st'd horn switch but with an extra on-off, ie - rage mode and country or city mode.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 2:12 PM
As I said mine are ALWAYS in rage mode. What a surprise.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: thooley17
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 3:28 PM
How I have it wired

Ok, if you click the link above, that is how i have it wired.
on the horn relay:
87: goes to the compressors
86&30: connected to power supply
85: Not sure about this wire here. originally it went to the lead of the momentary switch, and the other lead was grounded.

When i connect the 85 to the IN+, and the IN- to ground and i hit the button, the switch clicks but it but does not trigger the compressors.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Just follow the diagram from my post where it says NEG (-) switching.
I'd have this working for you in about 3 minutes.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: thooley17
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Ok. So in your diagram is it:
87 to power
86 to IN+ ....... And jump 86 & 87 together?

Ground common and IN-

85 to NO

And 30 to compressors, which are grounded.

Did I get that right?




Posted By: thooley17
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 5:10 PM
I just followed the diagram, and the compressors are always on, the switch does nothing.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Hoping that you also left your original switch in the circuit.
Otherwise you've done something basically wrong and no point proceeding.
I've modified the diagram so that you understand:-

5E8_horns.bmp

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: thooley17
Date Posted: February 09, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Never mind, I just mixed up two of the wires on the old diagram. Now it works just fine.

Thanks!





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