89-93 240SX Interior
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Forum Name: Fiberglass, Fabrication, and Interiors
Forum Discription: Fiberglass Kick Panels, Subwoofer Enclosures, Plexiglas, Fabrics, Materials, Finishes, etc.
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Topic: 89-93 240SX Interior
Posted By: th3c3z
Subject: 89-93 240SX Interior
Date Posted: July 12, 2006 at 8:52 PM
Hey, I always to see what someone could do to this car, I plan on doing something myself.
I saw this, and I was confused..
Is his whole car fiberglassed?
And when going about making custom fiberglass interior, how does it connect to the car?
I'd assum you'd take off the old plastic interior molds and use them to make your fiberglass mold around. As for attatching it to the car, use the same screw holes as the plastic molding?
I'm a fiberglass noob, but it's definatly something im excited about doing, I have a bunch of crazy ideas, I just need the eduction.
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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 13, 2006 at 10:41 PM
Dude, you win the award for link of the week.
That guy is living the dream. "Plan it, Do it, done."
Yea, he is using fiberglass to mold and shape to his heart's desire.
Since you are new to the scene and industry of this much appreciated art, I recommend you look at the sticky topic "how to make a fiberglass enclosure." Although that is a particular type of project, the foundations and principles for almost all fiberglass projects can be seen in that one how to.
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Posted By: th3c3z
Date Posted: July 14, 2006 at 12:40 AM
Thanks :)
I'm still studying up, but I have the basic idea of things, I just need some money so I can start practicing.
I figure I'll just make a bunch of enclosures the will fit in the back of s13 hatch trunks like this one..
I want the box so that the back seat closes flush with the box where the seat meets the different fabric. I'm not too sure how i'd go about building the box, but im gonna shoot, maybe somneone could draw some work plans on those pictures for me? that would be a big help.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 14, 2006 at 7:15 AM
The enclosure size will vary in accordance to the optimum volume required by the subwoofers that you choose. Don't try to make the enclosure size fit the vehicle as this will make the subwoofer sound like crap if in the end the enclosure is too small or too big. You can cheat by filling it with Dacron filler if it's too small or add to the enclosure if it's too large, but plan ahead and you won't need to do either.
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Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 14, 2006 at 2:14 PM
Velocity Motors wrote:
You can cheat by filling it with Dacron filler if it's too small or add to the enclosure if it's too large, but plan ahead and you won't need to do either.
Not to poke fun, but I have to know... did you mean that the other way around... "add to the enclosure it is is too small, and use Dacron filler if it is too large" ? ------------- I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: blufab
Date Posted: July 14, 2006 at 2:35 PM
Yea, the guy on that link is doing some wild and crazy stuff, like you said Melted living the dream. I just had to bookmark that page. Not trying so side track the topic but what do you all think he used to mold the fiberglass on top of, wood? 
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 14, 2006 at 3:02 PM
Honestly, my gut feeling tells me he used cardboard (or a similar material), like from a box, but sealed it so no resin or other liquid would leak into it.
One method I have been wanting to use for a while is how Steve Brown (Fabricator of the 2003 Alpine Civic Si) does it sometimes, and that is use foam blocks. Cut, sand, sand, cut, sand to get the shape you want.
They even have foam you can use to fiberglass over, and then after your fiberglass structure has cured, the foam can be dissolved using a liquid chemical.
Yea, that profile on cardomain is crazy. I do not have an account there but was going to make one, just to invite him here, or to at least see if he knows about us.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 10:22 AM
Hey how is everyone... this is aftercrash... the owner of the 240 in ?... I have to thank th3c3z for the invite to this page. As for living the dream.. I think that is the best compliment I have ever received for my car, and I am humbled by it. So the question seems to be what did I use to get my shapes... believe it or not I used very little cardboard. I used 2" close cell foam purchased for a local bedding store, i paid something like 32.00 for a 48x24x2 sheet. Then I sprayed adhesive on the car and outlined where I wanted to make my cuts. then after all was said and done I then taped over the foam with 2" masking tape and applied turtle wax (about 6 coats) and then glassed the tape. As for my glassing process...I used fiberglass clothe 1st , then when that dried I came back over with 3 layers of 6oz mat. Once that dried I removed the mold from the car and gutted all of the foam from the underside of the glass. Then simply do the same to the opposite side. Or if you have more time on your hands do both sides at the same time to ensure its even. My build up has been about a year in progress and i am currently waiting to get the car back from the pro shop when they finish with the engine. I actually did the labor of the install but know nothng about wiring so when I get her back I will finish the interior. My current plans are to install my amps in the custom glass enclosures like you see on my acrdomain page, but in the spot where the rear windows used to be i will place (2) 4in mid bass drivers directed towards the front seats, my Co2 bottle in the middle of the two seats... and as for my custom 12" enclosure... your gonna have to keep checking back but it's gonna be crazy!!. In no way am I a pro at this stuff so if you have ?'s or some good advice feel free to let me know... again thanks for the invite! -------------
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 10:31 AM
Velocity Motors wrote:
The enclosure size will vary in accordance to the optimum volume required by the subwoofers that you choose. Don't try to make the enclosure size fit the vehicle as this will make the subwoofer sound like crap if in the end the enclosure is too small or too big. You can cheat by filling it with Dacron filler if it's too small or add to the enclosure if it's too large, but plan ahead and you won't need to do either.
And to piggy back on Velocity another you could do is get a free air sub, this will allow you to make any shape of enclosure you want, the draw back will be that you can only use free air and you may not acheive the db you are looking for. -------------
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 10:34 AM
Velocity Motors wrote:
The enclosure size will vary in accordance to the optimum volume required by the subwoofers that you choose. Don't try to make the enclosure size fit the vehicle as this will make the subwoofer sound like crap if in the end the enclosure is too small or too big. You can cheat by filling it with Dacron filler if it's too small or add to the enclosure if it's too large, but plan ahead and you won't need to do either.
Also to piggy back on this.. you could always get a free air sub but the draw back is you may not get the db's you want -------------
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 10:35 AM
Velocity Motors wrote:
The enclosure size will vary in accordance to the optimum volume required by the subwoofers that you choose. Don't try to make the enclosure size fit the vehicle as this will make the subwoofer sound like crap if in the end the enclosure is too small or too big. You can cheat by filling it with Dacron filler if it's too small or add to the enclosure if it's too large, but plan ahead and you won't need to do either.
Also to piggy back on this.. you could always get a free air sub but the draw back is you may not get the db's you want -------------
Posted By: th3c3z
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 10:58 AM
I actualy do have a question, more-so a favor...
if you're fiberglassing your interior, let me see the molding from top,bottom, etc. I wanna redo the dash and stuff for my 240 when i get it, so it would be nice to know what im doing before i do it :P
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 11:04 AM
Well we can go step bu step...but it's not as involved as you may think it is.. if it helps I imagine what I want my finish prduct to look like then I work backward...mentally going over finishing, priming, sanding, glassing, fabric stretching, skeleton, and taping... in that order. If you send me an email to helbrngr@yahoo.com I'll send you some pics of how i get started .... -------------
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 11:16 AM
Some of my current and finished work...
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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 17, 2006 at 11:01 AM
Good to see you have made it over. Good job again on the 240SX.
We are a give and take forum, and we love doing both. Giving advice to anyone who needs help, direction etc.. And, everyone hear loves learning, even the gurus are still learning.
Look around, make yourself comfortable, lol.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: ridin4jesus
Date Posted: July 24, 2006 at 4:19 PM
hey very nice work, i was wondering if you could email me some picks of how you did the fiberglass on the sides of your car, i used to have a 240 but a lady in a camaro decided to total my car while i was in it. Anyway, i'm working with a 98 civic now and have had ideas like that for some time, just dont know how to go about doing it
Posted By: dangerranger96
Date Posted: July 26, 2006 at 6:08 PM
what kinda power are you going to be expecting from your 240, my friend has a 240 with something like 280 hp
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Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: July 27, 2006 at 4:01 AM
Well if this question is for me...I am just going to get the factor numbers from my rb25 swap for the time being...and when you take into consideration the weight of my glass work and interior it'll probably drop a bit, but come income tax season...I'll look into a larger turbo and some engine work. Right now I am saving for the rhd swap I want to do ....
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Posted By: torquehead
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 10:20 PM
Good job AfterCrash! Its good to know that even someone that doesnt consider theirselves as a pro would jump in and do the job you did..WITH A DAILY DRIVER!? Welcome to the12volt.com forum!
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: September 19, 2006 at 6:05 PM
Thanx... I am still getting my money together for a rhd swap... but right now I am being told that my rb swap is putting 323hp to the rear wheels -------------
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: September 20, 2006 at 10:13 AM
Nice, just got a Talon Tsi Turbo AWD a month ago. They are 210HP stock but man, that AWD is like nothing I have had before. I want to double the stock power, but have to build the block a little.
Supposedly the engine (4G63-T) can do 500HP off of stock internals, but I do not want to chance it.
How ya been? have not seen you post in a minute
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: September 20, 2006 at 2:14 PM
I used to be a correctional officer but I am now in the transition of becomming a state trooper/... so I am not really able to get on like I used to......
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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: September 20, 2006 at 2:24 PM
State Trooper with an RB swap....
SUPER COP ! hahaha That is cool man, well jump on when you can, hope it does not interfere with your project too much
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 8:54 AM
these are some of my most recent pics... this is the beginning of the r32 tail light conversion... many think for some reason it's a direct bolt on... it's not, you gave got to fabricate a way to fit them. notice the welds... it requires a trunk extention and closing off the space between the lock housing and the ends of the lights... i will post more as progress continues. btw i have removed the custom wide body kit i was making. because like an idiot i didnt roll my fenders and when i put my super advan racing ver 2 rims on that +24 offset rubbed like crazy...also my most recent mod list includes the 300zx 5lug conversion, and the purchase of the s15 front end....i have also located a place in ga that can perfoem the rhd conversion for me. -------------
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 9:21 AM
btw even though i am doing a s15 front end conversion... i am still working the front end of the 240...i will post pics of that progress at a later time -------------
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: October 29, 2006 at 10:52 AM
well, here you have a few shots of the headlights....i made it so that the lights can be removed by unscrewing them and then dropping them from below. when you look at it from the side view you can see how smoothly it flows into the body.alot of work considering i am going to end up hacking it off for the s15 conversion huh... good thing i dont khave to pay for body work!!! -------------
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: October 31, 2006 at 1:39 PM
Damnit After, do not think you are human for one second, you were made in a secret lab somewhere.
That is work is damn nice, as if a cyborg fabricated it. I know it seems like I am kissing azz and rubbing nuts, but credit is due where credit is due.
I cannot wait to get space and materials to work on my Talon, I am to do something as crazy as Veilside did for the FD3S.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: October 31, 2006 at 6:08 PM
hey melted...dont ever look at it ass azzkissin... real men are humble... i appreciate your support and teo tell you the truth i go to my local comm college and use their bays... but i do the work at the house in my back yard... i bought a flux welder from walmart for about 230.00 and buy all the other stuff from napa! people who spend all their time knocking someone elses creativity...now there's a real azz kisser!!
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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: November 08, 2006 at 3:48 PM
Right on man and well said.
I should be moving into a house early next year. Having a garage and a place to work is my goal. I would do the community college shop bay thing, except I am not taking classes this semester.
When I move back into a house I will put it in the air and perform all the modifications. A note to you too, if you are in college in some kind of auto class, you usually get educational discounts at places the college orders parts and supplies from.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: aftercrash
Date Posted: November 19, 2006 at 11:17 AM
actually I get all my parts and materials from the local Napa... they help out alot... still working on the r32 tail lights but I recently took on a 05 tiberon to do some body work to so it's gonna be a lil while longer till the 40s done.
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: November 20, 2006 at 10:11 AM
Nice, good luck with that, and as always keep us posted.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
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