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which amp for 2 mtx jackhammer subs?

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Topic: which amp for 2 mtx jackhammer subs?

Posted By: buttni69er
Subject: which amp for 2 mtx jackhammer subs?
Date Posted: May 23, 2008 at 7:10 PM

i got 2 mtx jackhammer subwoofers from circuit city
heres a link of what they are with stats
https://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/MTX-JackHammer-12-Subwoofer-JH451204/sem/rpsm/oid/191833/catOid/-13093/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

i bought a 4 channel jensen 840 watt amp as well and i tried tuning it but i dont like the bass it puts out.is this amp too weak for my subs? would a 1000 watt be better for my subs or would a 1000 watt amp blow my speakers?? any help would be appreciated. i am thinking of selling or trading my amp for a stronger one. what brand is affordable but good quality. thanks



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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: May 23, 2008 at 7:47 PM
First off, you have to define "affordable" for us. I bought the Alpine PDX1.1000 and it was possibly FAR more than you want to spend, yet I can personally still define it as "affordable"... EVERYBODY'S definition will be different. Secondly, what do you want to DO with this system, meaning what kind of music do you listen to?

ANY amp would work for those woofers, but, as you have discovered, you feel you need a bit more power. This leads me to wonder what kind of enclosure do you have, because THAT amp will probably be just about enough, in two-channel mode, to drive two of those woofers. Neither of those products are of fantastic quality, and they are both... well, shall we say "optimistic", at best. Anything more, and I feel you will run the risk of blowing them.

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Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM
i have the mtx box it came with. for the 2 12's.
its all sealed and has some thing on the side for the air to come out.its not a plexi glass box its just wood. my friend has 2 12" kicker cvr's with a 1000 watt xplod amp and it sounds alot louder and the bass is nice and deep and clear. i dont know if 1000 wats would blow mine. should i just try 900 watts? are mono amps better?




Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 23, 2008 at 9:21 PM
https://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/MTX-JackHammer-Dual-12-Subwoofers-in-Vented-Enclosure-JH4512X2D/sem/rpsm/oid/192803/catOid/-13093/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do


thats a better link. some ppl on the comments said they have a 1200 watt amp on theirs and some have 1000 watt amps.




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 23, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Again, what is your definition of "affordable"?

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Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 23, 2008 at 10:47 PM
anywhere up to 200. well it dont matter i just need to know what kind of amp will make these subs sound the best to their potential because my jensen 840 just aint cutting it.




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: May 24, 2008 at 7:27 AM
Well if you want to stay with MTX and the jackhammer series you could run a JH600, it would give you 600 (RMS), or 10.21 Gigawatts if your talking the absolutely non related peak power numbers.

To find a matching amplifier, you want to find an amp that can match the (RMS) rating of the subwoofers, which looks to be between 250-500 watts RMS, and they say that the box is wired to provide a 2 ohm impedance to an amplifier that you connect.

So you are looking for an amp that can put out 250-500 Watts RMS @ 2ohm's. A mono amp would be your best choice in my opinion since they will have a subsonic filter to block the frequencies below the tuning frequency of the box. Thats probably over your head at this moment, but if you want your stereo to sound good and actually understand what your looking for so you spend your hard earned money wisely, I would suggest doing some research into the electrical theory's and terms surrounding car audio, heres an excellent start.   www.bcae1.com , almost every question you may have will be answered on the right hand column.

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: May 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM
I would also like to add, if you don't have the time or patience currently to educate yourself on audio enough to tackle this yourself, I would definately suggest going to your independant audio shops and ask for their suggestions and see if they can find something to meet your budget and match the subwoofers. I suggest straying away from Circuit City/Best Buy and such places like that as, honestly, you probably have more knowledge than the people that work there...

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Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM
i would but all the audio shops here are rip offs. charging way more for subs and amps and decks.
i know a decent ammount about car audio but just not the amp part. i installed my subs and all my stuff by myself and everything but i just dont like the sound i get from my jensen 840. i will look into a mono amp. do you think i will get a deeper and better quality bass with a 250 or a 500 rms mono amp? thanks




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: May 24, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Pretty much anything is better than Jensen, report back when you think you have narrowed it down and we can give an opinion if you want.

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Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 25, 2008 at 1:30 PM
wow. i came on here hoping someone has knowledge about what kind of amps go best with the subs i got but all you guys are doing is trying to get all specific about every little thing that aint got doodie to do with it.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: May 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Well... Then go buy a Zapco C2K4KW. Will it run those woofers? Damn straight. Will it blow those woofers? Again, hell yes, but you can always keep the gain down and have plenty of headroom.

You asked. You asked VERY open ended, and information lacking questions. You came here to try to get help from us, and that's all we are trying to do: help you.

It seems you have already decided on what you want to do, so... go do it. I'm done.

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 25, 2008 at 1:56 PM

buttni69er wrote:

wow. i came on here hoping someone has knowledge about what kind of amps go best with the subs i got but all you guys are doing is trying to get all specific about every little thing that aint got doodie to do with it.

First, there is no such thing as an amp that "works best" with a subwoofer.  Any amp will work.  Second, since you get what you pay for (as you are realizing with your truly bottom-of-the-barrel POS Jensen) we need to know how much you wanted to spend.  You said $200 and I have no suggestions at that low end for you.  And thirdly, "getting all specific" is what professionals do.  If you can't handle answering specific questions, maybe you should go elsewhere?



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Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 25, 2008 at 2:29 PM
actually i got that jensen on sale. for 150 aha. and your crazy if you think i go to stores and pay top dollar for amps. i can just get a slightly used amp from people i know for wayyy cheaper.
so im guessing i shall go with a 1000 watt mono amp with around 400 to 500 rms. thanks




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: May 25, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Save my life I'm goin down.............. for the 3rd time..... how much cash do you feel like spending, and stop your complaining.

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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: May 25, 2008 at 6:30 PM
OK here ya go. You want something that will run those subs than thats fine. First dont look at peak power, its as usless as tits on your sister, just look at RMS power. You want an amp that is gonna be around 350-500 wrms. See if you can find an MTX TC3001. It runs a couple hundred bucks in store and less online, it will pound those subs to no end and give you what your looking for.

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Posted By: buttni69er
Date Posted: May 26, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Ravendarat wrote:

OK here ya go. You want something that will run those subs than thats fine. First dont look at peak power, its as usless as tits on your sister, just look at RMS power. You want an amp that is gonna be around 350-500 wrms. See if you can find an MTX TC3001. It runs a couple hundred bucks in store and less online, it will pound those subs to no end and give you what your looking for.
thank you! finally someone with some real answers and not more questions for my question.

the prices of amps dont bother me at the store because i can always get them half price or less on the streets. just needed to know what to look for when teaming up a amp with my subs. thank you raven




Posted By: wishuponansg
Date Posted: May 26, 2008 at 9:08 PM

if money isnt a problem why did you go with mtx jack hammers? y0u c0u1d hav3 atl3ast g0tten t3h 24 inch jackhammerzz, j33z, nubz.





Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: May 27, 2008 at 3:20 AM

This thread pretty much sums up why I got out of the business.

How has everbody been?



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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: May 27, 2008 at 6:31 AM
Haha pretty much, they wont buy it from your store, but they sure will buy it from the guy that stole it from your store!

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: May 27, 2008 at 8:01 AM
tcss]T wrote:

is thread pretty much sums up why I got out of the business.
How has everbody been?

BOB!!! Good to hear from you again! I'm'a call you this week! posted_image

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Alpine Guy wrote:

Haha pretty much, they wont buy it from your store, but they sure will buy it from the guy that stole it from your store!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

buttni69er, not only do I find your chosen handle offensive and inappropriate for this forum, your apparent promotion of purchasing gear "off the streets" has no place here.



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Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: May 27, 2008 at 11:35 AM
hmmmmmmmm and hmmmmmmmmmm well i dont know much about car audio. but i do know not to buy amps off 2 toes tony?. i have to point out the idiots that work in car stores these days. which in itself show the idoits as the customers. its a sad state of customer vs retailer. and to be honest im glad i get to work pt time in an honest shop. back when i was a total noob in car audio i dint know jack. pre what? s/n ratio huh. but one thing i didnt do was be an ass when people tried to help me. todays youth average iq around 72.

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Posted By: wishuponansg
Date Posted: May 28, 2008 at 9:52 PM

daboss593 wrote:

todays youth average iq around 72.

i'd like to think im a little more than that.... (im 17)





Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: May 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
wishuponansg wrote:

daboss593 wrote:

todays youth average iq around 72.

i'd like to think im a little more than that.... (im 17)


You might be the exception to the rule at 82 ;)



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Posted By: wishuponansg
Date Posted: May 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Ravendarat wrote:

wishuponansg wrote:

daboss593 wrote:

todays youth average iq around 72.

i'd like to think im a little more than that.... (im 17)


You might be the exception to the rule at 82 ;)


hah, thanks.





Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: May 29, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I would have given him a 83... for the original poster, you have blinders on dude. You are only hearing what you want to hear instead of what you need to hear. I like customers like you when they come in and refuse to listen or answer questions....you end up buying the wrong stuff over and over and over again (which is good for business) instead of finding out what you truly need and buying it once. See you again when you have another problem.

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Posted By: wishuponansg
Date Posted: May 30, 2008 at 4:07 PM

^^^ lol

thanks for the extra point.






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