Eclipse DA7232 or JL 1000/1?
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Topic: Eclipse DA7232 or JL 1000/1?
Posted By: dohcser
Subject: Eclipse DA7232 or JL 1000/1?
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 1:08 PM
I will be running (2) Eclipse 9122 subs. The Eclipse is rated at 1000 x 2 @2ohms and the JL is 1000 x 1.
I can get both amps for about the same price, however which one do you all fell is better and why?
I do like the regulated power supply, and crossover from JL.
Please help!!!!
Replies:
Posted By: IronCy
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 1:35 PM
I would go wth JL, Eclipse amps historically just dont have the balls they claim to have. Even the mono amps they produced in the past dont seem to really "push" speakers, My vote is for JL -Cy
Posted By: drvnbysound
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 1:43 PM
I am personally an Eclipse fanatic. I have the Eclipse 32440 and the 34230. I have previously owned 87 series subwoofers, and the 88Ti series. Eclipse products are on the money each and every time. Their products just as JLs products are pricy, but you pay for the work and quality they put into the product. If you already have the Eclipse subs, you might as well keep your system simple, as far as brands. I suggest that you go with the Eclipse, you wont be sorry.
I am also the owner of a car audio shop here in Panama City FL, if you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me at drvnbysound@aol.com
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 1:54 PM
Thank you all very much for the quick responses. I am more concerned with buying two JL 1000/1 amp to do what 1 Eclipse 7232 amp will accomplish, however if the JL is much better then I will go with them.
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 2:24 PM
I am running those subs and they are some of the nicest out there. They are very expensive but will worth every penny. Now they are rated @ 750 RMS but they are power hungry I would not suggest giving each one less than 1000 watts rms. Now on my set up I am running (1) JL 1000/1 to each sub. I have had several amps connected to them and the JL sounded cleanest and put out the best sounding bass hands down. The Jl has a really nice Xover and you can’t go wrong with the power supply and its underrated power ratings. I am a big fan of Eclipse and have had a few of their amps but just don’t think their amps are as good as JL as far as amplifiers go.
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 3:09 PM
bberman1 wrote:
I am running those subs and they are some of the nicest out there. They are very expensive but will worth every penny. Now they are rated @ 750 RMS but they are power hungry I would not suggest giving each one less than 1000 watts rms. Now on my set up I am running (1) JL 1000/1 to each sub. I have had several amps connected to them and the JL sounded cleanest and put out the best sounding bass hands down. The Jl has a really nice Xover and you can’t go wrong with the power supply and its underrated power ratings. I am a big fan of Eclipse and have had a few of their amps but just don’t think their amps are as good as JL as far as amplifiers go.
Great now there is someone with the same setup that I am looking at. A few questions, do you think that the 9122 are worth the extra money compared to the 8122's? Also have to had an SPL reading of your system? You have 2 9122 with 2 JL 1000/1, on to each sub right?
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 3:31 PM
Yes I have (2)88120TI's same thing as the 9122's with (2) JL 1000/1's . And yes they are worth the extra money. I have used many different high end subs and these are the first ones that I have truly been happy with. They put out the best mixture of SQ/SPL I have ever heard, but I have never gotten a SPL reading. I would defiantly go with the JL like IronCY said the Eclipse just doesn’t feal like it has that much power and it lacks in SQ Go with the JL 1000/1's and the 9122's defiantly worth the price tag
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 5:58 PM
Do you have an estimate as to what kind of SPL you might be hitting? Also what direction do you have the subs facing? What kind of car do you have? Did you upgrade your electrical?
Sorry for all the questions, but you are the closest person that I have "spoken" to that has a similar system to what I may have.
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: March 31, 2003 at 6:07 PM
Don’t have any Idea about the SPL the subs hit the hardest in my 02 Impala facing the rear of the trunk. As far as my charging system goes I have a 200 amp alternator and my lights don’t dim. If you want to contact me my email is bberman1@adelphia.net
Posted By: drvnbysound
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 2:36 AM
One reason the previous subwoofer amps didnt have as much power was because their design philosophy was more geared to strictly Sound Quality. Over the last several years they have done an excellent job of combining SQ/SPL with the Titanium subs as well as the D-class amps. Say what you wish about the JL amp. I like JL products as well, nicely constructed here in FL. But in my opinion Eclipse makes far better products. You can definitely get 2 of the 1000/1, but why buy 2 amps, when the single Eclipse amp can get the job done? As stated before, keep your system as simple as possible, and you wont have to do as much tuning.
I havent read much about the features of the Eclipse amp you are referring to, however I dont see why there wouldnt be a crossover built into it already. If it doesnt, that is very strange.
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 6:26 AM
There is an X-over built into the amp, however the JL X-over seems to be a better piece.
I too was thinking the same thing about the amp. Why buy 2 JL when one Eclipse can do the job. But many people have been giving their opinion on both amps. I have not heard from anyone that actually owns the ECLIPSE DA7232 or 7122.
Posted By: IronCy
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 6:53 AM
This must be one bad ass eclipse amp -- if it can do the job of 2 JL 1000/1's. I have 2 Titanium 15's each with its own precision power pcx-1500. The eclipse titanium series are very power hungry, the last thing that you would want to do is under power them. -Cy
Posted By: drvnbysound
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 7:07 AM
Its going to be extremely hard to find a person who had purchased that Eclipse amp, for a couple of reasons. One, being that its 1000W RMS x2 @2ohm. And not many people need that much power. Secondly, because the people that need that much power dont want to spend the money on an amp that is as expensive as the Eclipse is. Third, if someone did have the flow to buy one, and didnt think twice about it, they probably wont be on this site asking others about it. They are the guys that dont care about their wallets and just ask the sales reps at the shop they got the amp from. The JL is not as expensive, and a lot more common. Less watts for one. You also wont find too many people with the Crossfire VR2000D for the same reasons.
I have personally sold 6 of the Eclipse Titanium Subwoofers, they are definitely 750W RMS. Eclipse tests them with 750W for 96 hours straight. With that in mind, you definitely want to give them power. I know the Eclipse amp can get the job done, or they would not have put it on the market to sell. Eclipse designs and releases products all year long. The only company that I know of that does that. The reason that they do, is because they continually work on prefecting their products, and they release them as soon as they think they are good enough for the customer. Other brands, just wait around until the following year. When Eclipse releases new products they are 99% of the time.. BADASS
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 8:04 AM
drvnbysound wrote:
Its going to be extremely hard to find a person who had purchased that Eclipse amp, for a couple of reasons. One, being that its 1000W RMS x2 @2ohm. And not many people need that much power. Secondly, because the people that need that much power dont want to spend the money on an amp that is as expensive as the Eclipse is. Third, if someone did have the flow to buy one, and didnt think twice about it, they probably wont be on this site asking others about it. They are the guys that dont care about their wallets and just ask the sales reps at the shop they got the amp from. The JL is not as expensive, and a lot more common. Less watts for one. You also wont find too many people with the Crossfire VR2000D for the same reasons.
I have personally sold 6 of the Eclipse Titanium Subwoofers, they are definitely 750W RMS. Eclipse tests them with 750W for 96 hours straight. With that in mind, you definitely want to give them power. I know the Eclipse amp can get the job done, or they would not have put it on the market to sell. Eclipse designs and releases products all year long. The only company that I know of that does that. The reason that they do, is because they continually work on prefecting their products, and they release them as soon as they think they are good enough for the customer. Other brands, just wait around until the following year. When Eclipse releases new products they are 99% of the time.. BADASS
Well I think all your points are valid except one. The one about "Third, if someone did have the flow to buy one, and didnt think twice about it, they probably wont be on this site asking others about it." I wanted to know if anyone is running this amp and what they think about it.
Now as far as prices the Eclipse is 1000x2 @2ohms for $850.
The JL is 1000 x 1 @1.5 to 4ohms. This amps is going to cost me around $650 a piece. Total = $1300.
I do like JL feature of 1000W at 10V to 14V, but if I can save $450 and the Eclipse amp is really what it saids then the asnwer is clear, but this is why I wanted people opinions on the Eclipse amps.
Posted By: drvnbysound
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 11:05 PM
I was speaking with respect to retail pricing. The JL 1000/1 retails for $1,100.00. And I believe, just recalling from memory, that the Eclipse retails for $2000.00 This is what I meant by, "If the person had the money to buy the amp, and not think twice about it." Usually, a customer who is looking to buy an amp for $2000.00, is going to take the advise of the shop they are going to purchase the amp from, over the advise of unknown people on a website. Thats just based on my knowledge of being a sales rep at a shop, as well as selling car audio equipment online.
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: April 01, 2003 at 11:31 PM
Wow didn't realize that the Eclipse retails for 2G's. Anyway did you ever install one or heard either the 7232 or 7122? If so what did you think?
Posted By: drvnbysound
Date Posted: April 02, 2003 at 9:36 AM
I have yet to personally use any of the other Eclipse amps besides that 2 that I have myself. Eclipse and Focal are 2 brands that I never got to hear in other peoples vechicles before I got them myself. After extensive research on both, I have come to the conclusion, that any of their products, from either brand are really nice.
I went out on a limb a few years ago when I purchased my first set of Focal components, which were the 165K2's. No one around here has even heard of Focal, and when I ordered them in, I was taking the chance of wasting $425. Probably the best chance Ive taken with car audio equipment. I would be willing to do the same with Eclipse products. I believe in them that much.
Posted By: dohcser
Date Posted: April 02, 2003 at 12:15 PM
Well that is definately good to hear, I guess I will be providing a review within a month on the 7232. I also ordered the 6.5" Elcipse Components, I will be running them with a set of 6.5 Image Dynamics with Horns.
Posted By: drvnbysound
Date Posted: April 03, 2003 at 3:20 PM
Good luck with your installation. I recently sold a set of the Image Dynamics mid-bass drivers, and horns to a customer of mine. He said they sounded really nice.
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