Printer Friendly Forum Posts - hifonics amps vs planet audio?

here are the amps i am looking at for the wifes SUV.

hifonics; bxi1610d, zxi6410

planet audio; tq1601d, tq804

subs are alpine 12'' type r

mid/hi rf punch.

i have read good things about planet audio. and bad things about hifonics.

so far planet has my vote.

any one care to sound off on the two?

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i know everyone bad mouths hifonics but ive seen so many set ups with them that worked great. yes there are a TON of better amps out there but its the best bang for your buck IMO. I know everyone on here would disagree with me...

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Haven't heard Planet Audio yet. My BXI2610 is doing good enough for now with NO problems. I will be replacing it with 2 REF 1100.1s in the near future.

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How about Audioque amplifiers. Better build quality, true numbers and nicely priced.

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Ive read somewhere that Planet Audio is made by boss. Other than that I really dont know much about the brand.

Hifonics on the other hand seems to be very good for the money. Ive had a Brutus 1206D and a Zeus 4406 for years now and they are still going strong.

looks like i brought out the Hifonics fans! i have a bxi 2610d and a zxi 8408 in my 04 sebring. i am happy with them! i got them to "get me by" for now. but don't plan on replacing them till i have to.i am wanting some thing different for the wifes drango. the planet audio amps are priced a little better than the Hifonics amps and i read a lot of good things about p/a amps on here. but the p/a fans have yet to sound off on here. thank you j.reed i welcome any other ideas on other brands!

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Why must it always come down to "how many watts can I get for the least amount of money?" If ya' can't stand to pay $300-$400 for a mono amp and a little more for a sub and enclosure, then wait til ya' can.

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money ain't a problem! why should i pay 600$ for an amp that puts out 100x4, when i can get one for 100?! watts are watts. if the amp will last and do me good im down.thats all.

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metaljoey wrote:

money ain't a problem! why should i pay 600$ for an amp that puts out 100x4, when i can get one for 100?! watts are watts. if the amp will last and do me good im down.thats all.

yeah, watts are watts but for how long and with how much distortion?
distortion is the #1 murder of subwoofers. most companies rate the THD at 4 ohms but when you drop the load to 1 ohm you probably will get 10 times the distortion. the $600 amp will probably be designed to keep distortion in check. have you ever heard the term "clean power"?

i wish hifonics would go out of business, and planet audio used to be good stuff but their new stuff is junk. if you get PA try to find some of their older amps.

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wow, no love lost for Hifonics. i see this same name bashing on a drum forum lol.

i totally agree watts are NOT all created equal. there's a reason some name brand high end amps cost so much. just because you can't detect distortion as easily on a sub amp doesent mean it doesnt exist. ~'m sort of glad there are so many mfg. offering "good enough" amps today. many years ago you had very little choices and those 250 watt 2 channels wern't cheap ! but those 250's were beasts...

when all is said and done... clean is king.

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Well then on top of the DIRTY power they do make. You have to look at the inflated numbers. Out of the so called 1600rms hifonics amp you will only see 1200rms maybe if your lucky 1400rms. So you are actually getting what you pay for. Cheap build quality and inflated numbers. I would rather spend a bit more and have clean power that is underrated and will make the power is says and more.

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suggestions? i would like to stay around $400 for a sub amp and would like 1000rms or more @ 1ohm. can this be done with out me geting a "trash" amp??

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diamond audio 1000.1

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taking j.reed's advice and looking at the audioque line. the AQ1200D is $250 shipped from audioque. is that a good(er) brand? lol. what or who else should i look in too? set me on the path to enlightenment.

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i thought diamond audio was as "bad" as hifonics? is this not the case?

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hello?

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going with the adioque 1200d for the subs!

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If your getting a Fi BTL for your self you may consider getting the AQ2200 and giving the Hifonics to the wife :) think its $389 shipped.

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the aq1200d is for the wifes 2x12'' type R's. i am thinking about swapping out the bxi2610 with the aq2200. ain't had any probs out of the bxi2610, but i would like a better amp! i payed $389 for the bxi. i wish i knew about audioque before i bought the hifonics! ohwell, 389 ain't a lot to pay for good power like that. so i might just get the audioque 2200 soon for myself!! that is after i get my btl!! posted_image

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my bad! posted before thinking about what you suggested posted_image

!! i will do that!! omfg why didn't i think of that? FAIL posted_image

!! i will be ordering it this Friday!! dude, THANKS a ton for everything!!

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OK, the type R's are the old school type. duel 4 ohm 300 RMS. should i wire them at a 4 ohm or 1 ohm final load to the bxi? I'm thinking 4 ohm to be safe. whats the real world power of the bxi2610? the site tells you 850@4, 1700@2, and 2600@1. i don't think thats quit right. oh, what deferents might i see in swapping the hifonics bxi2600 to the audioque aq2200?? I'm thinking the bxi was putting out around 2000 RMS at 14.4 volts. that sound about right? does the aq2200 have a bass boost on it? i read some where that it doesn't. no big deal if it don't, that just helps to keep dummies like me from clipping all crazy like! lol

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Bass Boost is a marketing tool and for noobs IMO. It does nothing but drive the amp into clipping faster and add distortion.

As for power output. They should be very similar, but the AQ uses better internal components and is overall a higher quality build with non inflated specs.

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i was on another forum and read that some people were running their aq2200 @ .5 ohm. and it was no dig deal for that amp to run at that? what do you think? bad idea?? what kind of power would it put out if it could run like that? posted_image

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metaljoey wrote:

i was on another forum and read that some people were running their aq2200 @ .5 ohm. and it was no dig deal for that amp to run at that? what do you think? bad idea?? what kind of power would it put out if it could run like that?

If you notice they rate there 4ohm load at 12V not 14.4v. This for competitors that do sanctions like Usaci they go from manufacturer rating at 4ohm for power classes. It is made for competitors. Sure you can run it at .5 with a strongly backed electrical system, but i would not do it for a daily beater.

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