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It is mostly because of the Maxxsonic embossed bottom cover. They purchase failed or failing US companies and try to capitalize on their quality reputation. They use Chinese factories and the cheapest possible circuit boards and components to maximize their profit margins,

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It is mostly because of the Maxxsonic embossed bottom cover. They purchase failed or failing US companies and try to capitalize on their quality reputation. They use Chinese factories and the cheapest possible circuit boards and components to maximize their profit margins,

Well put.

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WOW!

I always had intentions of selling my 2610. It was a great deal at the time and heard nothing but possitive things. I have not had any issues with the amp other than it's inflated specs. I will be selling it and buying American ASAP. haha

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Thanks for the info guys

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well i cant help but 2 still like the amp because of the cool running. yeah they r over rated so i always buy bigger than i need. ive never had one of these amps fail so in my book they still r pretty good

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Class D amplifiers do not run near as hot as the older class A/B amplifiers.

lol well i dont know if i should be offended by that comment. jus cause this site shows me w 1 star doesnt mean im a rookie. i thought when i made that status bought it running cooler i didnt need 2 put class d in the sentence. class d is the standard of bass amps now. and my experiences w class d amps over the yrs is the hifonics amps running cooler than most other class d amps

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thenumber1byrd wrote:

lol well i dont know if i should be offended by that comment. jus cause this site shows me w 1 star doesnt mean im a rookie. i thought when i made that status bought it running cooler i didnt need 2 put class d in the sentence. class d is the standard of bass amps now. and my experiences w class d amps over the yrs is the hifonics amps running cooler than most other class d amps

You must be using other knock off d class amps then. Or maybe you are actually running large enough wire and have enough juice on tap considering the current they actually do pull with there inflated numbers vs. what they really should.

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Did not mean to offend you. I had no idea of your vast experience with amplifiers. I just overlooked that earlier and when i read it, I thought you may have had a class A/B amp previously and just wanted you to know that the newer amps run cooler. I have no idea if they run cooler than any other class D amplifiers.

I know for a fact that both my Kicker amps and AQ amps run cooler then the a hifonics amp. I tested one for a buddy that got much warmer and didnt put out near the power as either of the other 2 mentioned. Even in bench tests it does not preform as its "labeled" to do on output.

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ive looked ever where online for a bench test review of these amps n havent found one n ive never tested any on a bench. i jus know they do over rate but not by some foolish peak rating like other brands n the kicker amps to me r over priced for there quality. but i agree w the aq amps. now take all the amps that u can find that have the same price as a hifonics {compensating for the over rated watts}. for example hifonics bxi2608d is rated at 2600 but i believe its good for 2200. i can get that amp for $389. what other brand can u think of around the same power and quality for that price

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Easy the AQ2200d is the same price shipped, does rated power and is made from high quality parts and in the USA. Not to mention will take 16v charging if you got it. We benched the 2608 at my local shop and it barely did 2000rms. So yes it is highly overrated. I agree Kicker maybe a bit over priced, but they also have a really good warranty. I have never had one sub nor amp not fixed for free. Thats the plus of using local shops instead of internet market.

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ok so uve named one and already agreed w u on the aq amps

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Soundstream Picasso PCX2000D need i keep going? There are more that are way BETTER quality. Most at better quality are more expensive. Its like saying that my crappy cheap in every way car "x" has 400hp. Now try to buy a real well put together new 400hp car for 10K like this one cost. Cheap ass parts and put together in a 3rd world country vs. quality parts and better paid labor. Not to mention warranty. Sorry i will pay more and buy a quality piece. Even if i dont want to pay more there are better out there. Like the AQ line.

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whats ur thoughts on planet audio ap3000d or the jbl gto1400. im bought 2 buy 3 mtx thunder thin 10s n im not sure which 2 get. ive never owned a planet audio product and its been awhile since i owned jbl

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I have not messed with the planet audio at all. But what i have heard of it is not that good and the fact they dont post viable info on there products ie. fuse ratings. JBL has had some good products, but again it has been a while since i have messed with any. I do know thin subs do not sound very good IMO. Must be geometry of the subs. When ever possible i mount a traditional sub even in if it means dropping to 1 conventional from 2 thin mount subs.

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yeah i dont car for the sound of them either but i have a 05 4dr silverado and i can squeeze 2.3 cubes out of a box behind the back seat but the box is 6.25 inches at its deepest point n i went w .5 mfd so that left me w 5.25 at the bottom for the motor but where the top of the motor on a 10 would b its like 4.5 n i cant find traditional subs that shallow

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Just found this straight from PA. "Sorry but we do not give out or sell our service manuals for any of our product".

With that along with the lack of information on there products. i would have a really hard time buying into anything they have. Looks like marketing BS for a sub par product at its best.

thenumber1byrd wrote:

yeah i dont car for the sound of them either but i have a 05 4dr silverado and i can squeeze 2.3 cubes out of a box behind the back seat but the box is 6.25 inches at its deepest point n i went w .5 mfd so that left me w 5.25 at the bottom for the motor but where the top of the motor on a 10 would b its like 4.5 n i cant find traditional subs that shallow

Nope not much of a choice.

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lol yeah ill leave them alone then. im guessing ill go w the jbl again. i use 2 jam jbl 1200.1 back in the day. i held mississippi usac state record for a lil while using 2 of them on a lightning audio storm 15 back when they first came out. u know b4 rockford bought them out and turned them into a walmart brand lol. the storm was a beast of a sub

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The new Planet Audio amps use a proprietary intergrated circuit in the class D driver stages. This chip fails often when the amp suffers from shorted output transistors. If the chip fails, it has to go back to planet for repair. They will not sell the part to anybody. We sell the amps and they will not sell me the part to repair it.

well that aint worth the fuss. i had a friend that swears by the bb2400 but i never really looked or listened 2 his set up. i see the have the bb series and the ap series whats the diffrence cuz list price looks bout the same on them

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story has it that hifonics is getting some of the r&d dudes back from in the day. and are going to be making better stufff. anyone have any info on this???

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Before you see the light, you must die!!

I find that about as believable as the Easter Bunny. But I did send a message to someone that will know. I will let you know what I find out.

Im not that big on Hifonics equipment, but my wife has 2 of the hfi DVC 12's in a sealed enclosure (non divided) running off the titan series 2x300 amp. All of this in a 2000 Chevy astro, and it hits HARD! Im actually impressed with it. But i agree its all cheap. I have to give a little bit of kudos to this particular setup tho. We got everything brand new for 300 dollars. That was the amp, the 2 subs, the box, and the wiring kit.

So can anyone give me an idea on how fast this stuff is going to blow up? lol, i have to aggravate my wife about this.