elemental designs nine.2 or ppi pc275?

I would like some pros opinions on wich one of these amps would be better to pair with my new xtant/morel 28mm soft dome tweeters .They are 100 watts rms and will be ran fully active.

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You get a electronic x-over? I was going to ask if you've seen the diversity those things have for bi-amped systems.

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Yep,I have an arc audio eqx idx combo kit.As far as diversity goes in biamped systems I dont know if im familiar with what your saying.This will actually be a 3 amp system consisting of 800x1@4ohm (re audio 1600.2 v2) for my subs (2 re audio 12's 300watts rms 4ohm dvc)20-70hz, For my mids (xtant/morel 4" 4ohm dsc.2 300-4000hz)and either (mpyre 6.5"mids 4ohm and 150watts rms or peerless sls 6.5's also 4ohm and 100wattsrms for the 70-300hz range,they will be powered by an re audio 1600.4 v2 that is 100 watt rms per channel.And you already know my tweeters set up idea.I am going to install all of this next week in my 2003 dodge ram p/u.

Are you familiar with mpyre mids? ,i did alot of searching on these and they are said to be a phenomenal mid bass,I got them in a trade for my dayton rs 150's .If you could elaborate more on the diversity you speak of that would be greatly appreciated.thanks in advance!!!

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A short while back I got a hold of a 3-way electronic-XO. It had all the settings like: x10kHz variable high pass line out-selector(owns for tweeter dedicated amps), variable High and Low bandpass line out-selector. Sub-blah-blah. The thing worked like a charm. Soooo much easier than making adjustments on the active side. I dunno, its been days since I have played around with one of these and was glad I had the chance to see it in action... I wasnt sure if you were using one of these or not.   


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Oh about the mpyre's... Those things are brutal enough to run the SQ subsonic frequency's out of phase. I have not personally had a chance to see what "needs" the thing requires to operate at capacity. I wouldnt be surprised if 3/4" MDF and bracing was required.   I just havnt come around to a speaker moving that much air, and still bringing quality.   DLS has made some interesting mid-basses too. Just hard to get it to blend with the low's.

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ianarian wrote:

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A short while back I got a hold of a 3-way electronic-XO. It had all the settings like: x10kHz variable high pass line out-selector(owns for tweeter dedicated amps), variable High and Low bandpass line out-selector. Sub-blah-blah. The thing worked like a charm. Soooo much easier than making adjustments on the active side. I dunno, its been days since I have played around with one of these and was glad I had the chance to see it in action... I wasnt sure if you were using one of these or not.   

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I do have an eq with all of those features you speak of ,I am installing my new gear first and then i will set that up.thanks for the help.

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ianarian wrote:

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Oh about the mpyre's... Those things are brutal enough to run the SQ subsonic frequency's out of phase. I have not personally had a chance to see what "needs" the thing requires to operate at capacity. I wouldnt be surprised if 3/4" MDF and bracing was required.   I just havnt come around to a speaker moving that much air, and still bringing quality.   DLS has made some interesting mid-basses too. Just hard to get it to blend with the low's.

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I plan on using the 3/4" mdf adapter in my doors,they are completely sealed and deadened.I also plan on using a 7" deflex pad behind those things to take away some of the resonance.It will be interesting to see how they do Ive been told that set up properly they could be one of the best mid bass drivers made.

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Holly friggin crap! Can that Arc preamp cook breakfast too? Dam!
1 last thing... why 100w on the tweets?

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Holly friggin crap! Can that Arc preamp cook breakfast too? Dam!
1 last thing... why 100w on the tweets?

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actually I decided to run only 50 watts to them with an old school ppi pc250.I did my homework about the subject and the majority of people said the same as you:why 100 watts to the tweets.They recommended about half that.That arc pre amp set is really nice its an eq and crossover that you can combine with one faceplate,has tons of settings and features as far as making breakfast ill have to check the manual!!!lol

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Good show! Thanks for introducing that Arc *wonder component*. I wasnt aware that they made such a device.

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Heres a link to that eq crossover combo i have in case you want to check it out https://www.arcaudio.com/product-pdf/IDX-XEQ.pdf. Its a great combo setup.Those mpyres a huge!!! i just got them and installed them today and they just barely fit in my doors ,no power to them yet.thanks for the insight.

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....Unfortunately the local Arc dealer and I dont see I-2-I on things...So without a hookup, It'd be too long before I could get one..

They fit huh? What do ya know....good doodie. That being said, the stock speaker may have had a special piece in the mount that worked as a umbrella for the speaker... I would think if it was there you might of had to remove it... If indeed you did, I have used Dynamat to make a little roof over the speaker(just over the top 1/2) to protect it from water that drips in the window sill. That make sense?

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....Unfortunately the local Arc dealer and I dont see I-2-I on things...So without a hookup, It'd be too long before I could get one..

They fit huh? What do ya know....good doodie. That being said, the stock speaker may have had a special piece in the mount that worked as a umbrella for the speaker... I would think if it was there you might of had to remove it... If indeed you did, I have used Dynamat to make a little roof over the speaker(just over the top 1/2) to protect it from water that drips in the window sill. That make sense?

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Thanks for the tip on the half dome to prevent water damage i will definately look into incorporating that.I actually used a 1/2 "birch wood spacer on the install with a wooden baffle.

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I recommend only Panasonic because they have more capabilities to bear high voltage.

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I dont need any recommendations !!!!!DID YOU EVEN READ BEFORE YOU POSTED?apparently not!! Thanks for the 2 cents but it is not relevant to what were talking about, and panasonic is not that great of a company to begin with!!!

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Haha leslie, you're wrong. They did a recount. It was a tie. One of Panasonics "capabilities to bear" did not qualify. Nice car though!


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