2006 gmc envoy remot start.
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Topic: 2006 gmc envoy remot start.
Posted By: azamora619
Subject: 2006 gmc envoy remot start.
Date Posted: August 29, 2014 at 9:38 PM
Hi everybody, did 2006 GMC ENVOY XL COME WITHOUT PASSLOCK II, Im looking into installing an alarm to this vehicle and while checking the wiring diagrams it states that a bypass module is required for this vehicle, but the thing is that I don't have the original key, I only have a copy of the key that I got from my local hardware store, how is this possible, does this mean that the vehicle does not have passlock II?? please help??
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Posted By: auto enhancers
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 8:51 AM
That vehicle does have passlock. Also you are going to want to use a data module if you are wanting to do locks. If you don't you are going to create a bunch more work for yourself.
Posted By: azamora619
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 9:35 AM
but doesn't passlock prevent you from starting the car with a key that does not have a chip on it. I lost the factory key, so I used the copy that I got at a local hardware store, which is not programmed because it only cost me $2. I want to use the blade lock and transponder bypass module for the lock and the passlock if t has it. will I need the original key to program this module or would I be able to use the copy since it can start the vehicle.
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Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 10:04 AM
If you can start the vehicle with a plain unprogrammed steel key then there is no factory immobilized system.
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Gary Sather
Posted By: azamora619
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 10:17 AM
tonanzith that's what I thought since im able to start the vehicle with a plain umprogrammed key. but the weird thing is that, it shows me the security light on the instrument cluster, and when I open the door like if I was breaking into the vehicle the cars factory alarm goes off and the security light comes on, but as soon as I use the plain unprogammed key to start the vehicle it starts the factory alarm stops.
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Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM
Factory alarm, door trigger etc. is separate and different than a factory immobilized. You still need to bypass the factory alarm during remote start and for a keyless entry system but the vehicle doesn't have a starter kill feature. Or someone has used a module or resistors to permenantly bypass the immobilizer. Unlikely but I've seen it done.
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Gary Sather
Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Either way you will want a module. It makes the install much easier. Especially if your adding keyless entry. Save yourself the trouble and get an idatalink or xpresskit module
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Gary Sather
Posted By: azamora619
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM
tonanzith, thanks for clarifying and I will go with an idatalink module. I will be installing an Excalibur 1850 remote/security alarm to this vehicle and I want to use the idatalink blade al, which I can use on the Excalibur unit, so my next question is will I be able to use the plain unprogrammed key to program the idatalink blad al module???
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Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Yes. You will need to do the process and it will basically learn that there is no immobilizer.
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Gary Sather
Posted By: auto enhancers
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 12:51 PM
False. False false.
The passlock system works off the tumbler not the key. It is passlock not passkey. There are no chips in the head of those vehicles.
Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: August 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM
That is my fault. You are absolutely correct. Either way, module....
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Gary Sather
Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: August 31, 2014 at 11:49 PM
yes i was just about to say... i ran up against this same issue when i was a lot newer to alarms and remote start and had this issue with an impala around the same year. the customer had a regular steel key and it started the car just fine so i told the customer that he didnt need a bypass... wrong... the immobilizer works off of the key cylinder not off of the key itself so when you are installing a remote start you will still need the necessary bypass module to get through the factory immobilizer
Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 01, 2014 at 2:34 AM
yes i was just about to say... i ran up against this same issue when i was a lot newer to alarms and remote start and had this issue with an impala around the same year. the customer had a regular steel key and it started the car just fine so i told the customer that he didnt need a bypass... wrong... the immobilizer works off of the key cylinder not off of the key itself so when you are installing a remote start you will still need the necessary bypass module to get through the factory immobilizer
Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: September 01, 2014 at 11:31 AM
Well in my case I knew better. Buuuut a few holiday drinks and a forum don't go over well. Lol
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Gary Sather
Posted By: azamora619
Date Posted: September 01, 2014 at 9:02 PM
Thanks to everybody that replied to this post, it was very useful, yes the vehicle does have the immobilizer in the cylinder not in the key, so got a blade al from idatalink, flashed it with the correct software and the installation went smooth... took me 2 hours from start to finish, felt good to do it myself, but again I could not have done it with the help of everybody in this forum, so again THANK YOU EVERYBODY for the help.....
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