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I have a 4 subwoofer setup going in my truck

I already have the amps 2 xtantx1001's and I am looking at the JLAudio W6V2'S, and also the Diamond Audio TDX 12'S any opinoins would be appericated

Thanks

John

i like the jl they are very good. da is very good too. but if it were me jl

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Big Dave

Lightning audio storm series subs looks loud..
https://thezeb.com/caraudio/lightningaudiosubs.html

they got them on sale too.

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Well those amps would be doing the Diamonds some justice but overpowering the JL's unless you went with a 4 ohm configuration which seems like a waste of a good amp to me. The Diamonds are rude, very rude, quite expensive, but will serve you justice. Plus they are not something that everyone else will have so thats a plus. Ive only heard them once, pair of 10's in a vented enclosure but they were way underpowered, only had 1200 watts going to the two combined( they are rated for 1500rms each) but none the less they kicked butt and sounded good as well. I say go for the Diamonds. I run the CM3 series and they are some mean ones as well. Havent got to hear the M6's yet.

Oops, just noticed you said a 4 sub system, with just 2000 watts at 2 ohms i wouldn't use the TDX's, be too underpowered, 4 of those JL's would be perfect in that case, sorry bout that. Course may want to take a listen to the Diamond M6's just to compare to the JL's. They are 800rms and have titanium magnesium cones. Or for another maybe the Eclipse Aluminum or Titaniums series.

Never heard the storm series, but we've always had tons of problems with all the bolt products (amps and subs). But I think you can tell from both the price and the pictures that the storm series are a completely different sub.

Anyways, both JL and Diamond are very good but if I had to choose from one of them I'd go with the JLs. You'd certainly be pushing the W6s to near their power handling limits, but I think they'd be fine.

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Ya, they use it in there promotion car..which is a sweet car...nowhere near as nice as the alpine civic..

i like JL's stuff. high quality. you concider the W7? dunno if you have made or had a box for 4..but i think a couple of the 12" W7's would be a sweet setup. course, your wallet would be alot lighter too.

Power acoustiks MOFO 12" is a nice lookin sub, i havent heard it, but looks solid.
https://thezeb.com/caraudio/power_acoustik_subwoofers.html
its the first one on the page.

Then you can do the rockford power HX2 12" or HX2 12" that would hit really good.

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go with the TDXs actually...the X1001 is very conservative and will give you enough power to make the TDXs move...and if, in the future, you were to think about serious competition, you could just add amps...

I know of a certain dealer around who hit 154.9 with a single TDX15...he didnt realize he had the subsonic filter set to 50Hz either...

the subs can get quite loud, yet sound amazing...you also dont need 2000w RMS to drive the subs, that is their peak handling (although that figure is quite conservative IMO), and not their minimum requirements...even 500w per will make them move, and the X1001 does more than double that so you would be good to go...you will not be let down by these subs...

I would personally go with the tdx's. I agree with Big Purds about not needing 2000 watts. If you had that much it would be great, but not needed. I don't know where you are going to be buying your subs, but www.onlinecarstereo.com has gret prices on the Diamond Audio subs and not just the TDX series. I think they have the 12" TDX for $369.99 with free shipping. That's alot better than the $600 retail price. I am running 2 TDX 15's with a Kicker 1200.1 on each on and they are just plain sick. Just so you know I found the amps for $426 a piece shipped to my house at www.hookedontronics.com peace....

Another vote for the TDX's, really good subs...

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D148L0

Hey, just something important you may want to consider (as posted on their site) : Diamond Audio does NOT authorize ANY internet sales of car audio products.
Diamond car audio products are designed to be sold and installed by experts at authorized locations.
Products purchased from anyone other than an authorized Diamond retailer may not be new or even genuine Diamond Audio Technology products, and do not qualify for Diamond Audio's limited warranty or technical support. ... (as posted on their site) If you want to buy them on the internet, make sure the site has a good warranty...

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D148L0

Thanks for all the help. I really appericate it. I really need to listen to the Diamond audio subs

I'll go to the shop here in town that sells them, and see what the deal is.

Power wise i was just going by Diamonds specs for them, 1500rms each, and then looking at a 4 sub setup, which would be asking for 6000rms if you wanted to give them all they were rated for. On another note its funny because most every person on here always says match up the subs rms with the same power amp. But now you say its ok to give a setup asking for 6000 watts only 2000?? Which is it guys?? Yes the 2000 watts will make them move and probably be "stupid" loud but still sound good, just like the ones i heard that only had 1200 watts on the 2 subs. I'm just trying to get some good knowledge and now it seems all screwed up. 1 minute match up, next minute its ok to underpower them. And i promise i'm not trying to make anyone mad here!!

I agree with 148IO about the warranty. The shop in my town said that I get a 3 year if they install it versus a 1 year if I buy it from them and install it myself. The web site I am talking about told me that the 1 year warranty that they have on the site is theirs and not Diamond Audio's. I purchased my stuff from them and it was the real deal. I even took it to the shop here in town to see if it was new and not a knock off. Of course they said I should have bought it from so I could get the warranty, but I wasn't about to give them an extra wad of cash plus pay retail to boot.

Try this one on for size. Subwoofers are like women! You can give them what will get them by and keep them happy. Or you can give them all that they can handle and have them begging you to take you home. What I'm trying to say is that giving a sub just enough will get you by, but I have always been told that you should give a sub as much power(clean power that is) up to it's max rms rating. My 1200.1's are rated at 1200 watts, but were tested at 1400 watts at 1 ohm with.01thd.

I look forward to see lots of posts in this one... Yeah, I'm one of those who believes in matching RMS - RMS as rule of thumb. I do it in my systems for 2 main reasons: most important, for SQ. The closer the amp is to the sub, less gain you use in your amp (let's be honest about it!!!!! posted_image

)... second, that way I don't feel l'm lacking or wasting watts and/or money... most of times I recommend it to those who use sealed boxes, b/c, as T.Hill says, you want to get as much as possible SPL / SQ from your sub (s), but I also have said that, in a given enclosure, you can achieve a similar performance with substancially less power.... even in a sealed enclosure, it also depends on the sub... RMS is calculated similar to the HP in a car, to obtain the best performance AND durability... so it's the ideal point in a range, not merely a must-follow-rule. Hope to read from you guys, I want to learn more...

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