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Topic: isobaric box

Posted By: bigunner1
Subject: isobaric box
Date Posted: July 10, 2003 at 5:50 PM

i saw in a magazine a single 12" woofer mounted isobarically, you know magnet on the outside, cone facing in. how would you calculate what size the box has to be that the sub is firing into? do they have to be sealed, or ported. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanx



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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: July 10, 2003 at 9:40 PM
That's called Inverted mounting. An Isobarric mount requires 2 subs.

For Inverted mounts you would use the Net Internal Volume (does not have the subs displacement factored in already) recommended by the manufacture. This is actually the volume that most manufacturer's will give, and you usually have to add the sub displacement to that before calculating the total required volume for a Normal mount.

As far as going sealed or ported, I'd use the manufacturer's recommendation as well.

Since the sub is inverted, I believe you have to switch the phase of the amp as well (look for a switch called "Phase" that usually has 2 settings: 0 degrees and 180 degrees). For an Inverted mount you would use the 180 degree phase setting. A normal mount uses the 0 degrees setting.

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Posted By: bigunner1
Date Posted: July 11, 2003 at 12:28 PM

thanx for the input, is there any advantages to this type of setup? spl or sq wise?





Posted By: bigmurf127
Date Posted: July 11, 2003 at 1:46 PM

many say you lose spl but a big thing is that the sub is fully exposed so if you put anything else in your trunk it is more likely to sustain damage.  To wire inverted all you do is wire your sub backwards, - on the amp to + and + to -.  A simple way to explain why you do this is the sub is pushing air when wired the standard way, now it is pulling air when mounted inverted.  I've heard of using an inverted port design but most are sealed.





Posted By: ghs_wreslter189
Date Posted: July 12, 2003 at 10:31 PM
I have two Kicker XPL 15"s and one of them is inverted.  I experienced better sq and better spl this way.  I recommend giving it a shot to see if you like the results.

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Posted By: bigunner1
Date Posted: July 17, 2003 at 11:09 PM
thanx ghs, i only want to use one sub, in the middle poking out between my seats, i have a reg. cab truck, and deep boxes behind the seat are a pain in the a$$.  i can utilize the width and cut down on the depth. by the way are yours ported? and sorry about the slow response.




Posted By: rave
Date Posted: July 19, 2003 at 11:00 PM
I have ran many isobaric (equal pressure) boxes, the advantage is the box size is about half (2 subs) of what one sub takes. Isobaricly mounting 2 subs is not the best for SPL as you dont get db coupling like you do with your subs facing the same direction.





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