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Topic: mono Amp Specs

Posted By: EzekialPhoenix
Subject: mono Amp Specs
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 2:18 PM

Alright, I know I have been posting like crazy, but I am in the middle of a complete system overhahl and it has been about three years since I have purchased car audio products.  My question is this: I have having trouble picking out a mono amp to run my 2 Kicker  S12L7 dual 4 ohm subs.  Amplifier prices are throwing my judgment off.  Take a moment and imagine looking at mono amps without seeing any prices.  What would be some specs that would set quality amps apart from junk amps? (e.g. s/n ratio, thd%, etc...)  What would you all look for?

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 2:44 PM
Throw the spec sheet out the window, they will never tell you how loud or how good it will sound. If you want the best perfomance, find yourself a US built amp that is designed and engineed to operate at 1ohm mono, not just stable to 1ohm mono. This amplifier will make it's power at 12 - 14.4volts, the lower the rating on the voltage with the same or greater power than an amp at 14.4volts, the better. The power rating should not be made at 1000hz, anybody can make power at 1000hz. Have a look at Orion, Eclipse, Diamond, Soundstream, Kicker, JL Audio and the like. Run away, far away from Sony (friends don't let friends buy Sony). If these amps are a little too pricey, consider a made in songakoreatiawanapore amp like the Audiobahn, Lightning Audio, Concept and whole pile of others. These amps are pretty good at producing lots of power, not quite as clean and hard hitting as most of the US built amps, but they do a good job and sell for less $$$.

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Posted By: EzekialPhoenix
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 2:56 PM
how do I know if an amp is engineered to run at 1 ohm, rather than an amp that happens to be 1 ohm stable? Do you know of any specifically?

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 3:00 PM
Orion, Lightning Audio, Soundstream, Kicker, JL, Planet Audio, Concept, Crossfire......Good enough for a start?

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Posted By: EzekialPhoenix
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 3:17 PM
Definitely. I sincerely appreciate your help.  I have looked at some amps designed by those companies.  I've been considering the Kicker KX1200.1, the Orion XTR PRO 1000, the Crossfire VR1000D.  I've also been seriously considering the Memphis MC1000D, and the Diamond Audio D5 1200.1.  They are all in my price range.  I am just so nervous because I know that if I run an amp at 1 ohm that is not designed to run at 1 ohm, I am going to fry the thing and be out the money.  That is why I want to be extra careful when choosing an amp.   

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 6:28 PM
Dude, the Crossfire is an awesome amplifier. I would also have a look at the new Orion amps as well as Planet Audio.

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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: November 19, 2003 at 8:07 PM
If you're not too interested in the names, the JBL BP1200.1 is a good choice as well. They are 1ohm stable and will produce 1200 x 1 @ 1 or 2 ohms. I've installed them before and they are a good choice. But if you can afford better go for it (these are a good bang for the buck though).

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Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: November 20, 2003 at 9:23 PM
You might look at the new line of JBL amps like the BPX1100.1. I will give you 1100 watts at either 1, 2, or 4 ohms. Here is a web site... https://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/1653

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Posted By: si90lude
Date Posted: November 21, 2003 at 2:27 PM
if not too pricey check out the alpine v12 mono amps. some people dont like the digital processing but they deliver very accurate bass response with very flexible adjustments




Posted By: EzekialPhoenix
Date Posted: November 21, 2003 at 2:50 PM
The v12 amps look nice, but they are not 1 ohm stable, which is what I need.  Anyway, I've made my decision.  I narrowed my choices down to the Orion 1200D, the Crossfire VR1000D, the Kicker KX1200.1, the Diamond Audio D5 1200.1, the Memphis MC1000D, and the Alphasonik PMA800D.  I crossed off the Orion, the Diamond Audio, and the Alphasonik because they in the end they were costing more than I really wanted to spend.  I crossed off the Memphis because it didn't really offer that many features.  In the end I was left with the Crossfire and the Kicker.  I am choosing the Kicker because it offers more power for the same amount of money as the Crossfire and it matched my subs, which is always a good thing in my opinion.  I thank veryone for all their input, and I'll let ya'll know if achieve my goal of blowing my face out my ass!

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: November 21, 2003 at 8:53 PM
Still would have a look at the Crossfire... they have had a class d on the market for 4 years now... the Kicker is still a fairly new player to this market..I don not sell either but did used to sell the Crossfire until last year (distributor dropped the line..jerks). Here in Canada the distributor of Kicker also dropped after a long time, this was done solely based on excessive warranty claims from what I have heard. For the record though I don not know how this may or would reflect on the Kicker amp you are looking at. Another consideration is real estate, the Kicker needing about 8.5" more in length, but both amplifiers make about the same power, the Crossfire measures at 12.5v, the Kicker at 13.8v so they both are about the same for output, what are the warranties like on them, for us Crossfire had a 2 year over the counter exchange warranty, this was really nice when we did have a problem (none ever with a class d). Whichever way you go I'm sure it will be a good choice, enjoy.

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Posted By: 97neon
Date Posted: November 22, 2003 at 8:47 AM
don;t get kicker man, so overratted, go with the memphis, those amps are mor elike 1400 watts on the 1000D, i have one, running a audiobahn awt15x sub, not near the power rating, but, it still kills my ears to sit inside, i have had that kicker amp before, i thought there was somehting wrong ith it so i brought it back, got a new one, and still sucked, so disappointed, plus there expensive, like 800 bucks or osmehting form a dealer




Posted By: EzekialPhoenix
Date Posted: November 22, 2003 at 3:20 PM
Well, there is some new news.  I was able to find the Orion 1200D for a very reasonable price, so now I am really considering going that route.  If anyone knows anything about that amp, I'd love the input.

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: November 22, 2003 at 4:11 PM

Ahhhnold says yah dat iz gud amp. Us built, good warranty, 120amps of fusing, will lb hard. Good choice



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