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1/2'' MDF to make small sub enclosures?

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Topic: 1/2'' MDF to make small sub enclosures?

Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Subject: 1/2'' MDF to make small sub enclosures?
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 6:46 AM

Hey guys, before you start yellin, i know i know i know, that I should really be using 3/4". But, My buddy had 2-4x12 sheets of MDF he was gonna scrap, so I took them. I was wondering if it would be safe to use this, to make small sub enclosures? I have some pretty mean subs, so i'm sure the answer is no, but if i can save some money, it'd be great. I was thinking about making 3= .5 cu.ft. sub boxes. One for each of my subs. I have MA Audio, 100D6 series subs. Let me know asap. Thanks.



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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp



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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 7:11 AM
let me clear that up 2 half inch sheets of 4 foot by 12 foot MDF

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 7:52 AM

stack them and then make box.

If i read the post right.....



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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 7:53 AM
what do u mean stack them?

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 8:41 AM

Glue the two together, and clamp them down. Once dry  you'll have a 1 inch  4x 12 sheet of MDF



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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 8:43 AM
i see. Is that as strong as having a normal 1" board?

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 1:03 PM
Yes it is, for small boxes it is generally not necessary however. I have had to make boxes out of 1/2" before due to space limitations to gain necessary airspace. If you are going to make the boxes out of 1/2", go ahead, just throw some extra bracing on the inside to help keep the box from flexing.

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Posted By: bullard2003
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 4:17 PM
Even though lots of people disagree, I say the 1/2" is OK. I have a 2400 watt Fosgate amp powering 2 audiobahn 12`s And I made my box out of 1/2" MDF. The trick is to use ALOT of bracing and glue-but I guess it would be easier to just buy 1", but for the free 1/2", its worth a shot, right?




Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 8:20 PM

I would think the two 1/2 inch would be lil stiffer.  What are you running anyways? if its a couple of 8's 1/2in will do you fine.

i used less than a 4x8 sheet of mdf for my 1.3cu foot x2 box for my 12's



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I need quality equipment, feel free to donate.




Posted By: NaughtyLMnky
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 8:31 PM
I'd just do like Maxst said and stack the two 1/2 inch sheets for a 1 inch thickness.  I've committed some overkill before and stacked 3/4 inch mdf for some fifteens before.  It turned out really tight.  Otherwise if you don't want to go that route just use lots of bracing and glue.  Either way it will be a little bit more work, but for the free mdf its worth it.  Free usually sounds pretty good either way you do it.




Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 16, 2003 at 9:33 PM
Cool thanks for all the advice. For the guy who asked, I am running 3 MA audio 100D6 dubs.

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: tuneman
Date Posted: December 17, 2003 at 2:25 AM

Heres another option. Build your box out of your free 1/2" and brace it really well with good wood everywhere you can get it, silicon all of the seams inside, then use resin in the box ( make sure you use rubber gloves). A few coats of resin will strengthen the box, help on dampening, and give you a lighter box than using 2 1/2"sheets glued together.

With all of the bracing and resin and woofer displacement, calculate your air space with an extra .1 or .2 cf or so.

Good Luck



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Posted By: tuneman
Date Posted: December 17, 2003 at 2:25 AM

Heres another option. Build your box out of your free 1/2" and brace it really well with good wood glue everywhere you can get it, silicon all of the seams inside, then use resin in the box ( make sure you use rubber gloves). A few coats of resin will strengthen the box, help on dampening, and give you a lighter box than using 2 1/2"sheets glued together.

With all of the bracing and resin and woofer displacement, calculate your air space with an extra .1 or .2 cf or so.

Good Luck



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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 17, 2003 at 2:57 AM
Sounds like a good idea. Where do I get this resin you speak of? Also, could I use the resin and a polyfill at the same time? I read a post earlier, where the guy made it sound like it was one or the other. Is the resin, the same as the fiberglass stuff? I dont know where to get either, just wondering.

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: NaughtyLMnky
Date Posted: December 17, 2003 at 8:28 AM

I'm pretty sure what he is talking about is fiberglass resin.  It's the same thing just the name is split up.  You can easily find it at just about any store that sells automotive.  I know that walmart and fleetfarm also have it.  It's usually about 25 a gallon but you can buy it in smaller quantities.  They carry stuff made by bondo. 

I don't know why I didn't think of that.  I've done that to wimpy boxes before to.  It can work out pretty slick but the resin can be a real mess if you are not careful.  Do like tuneman said and use rubber gloves and also use dropcloth to cover your working area and anything else you don't want to have permanet drops of resin.





Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: December 17, 2003 at 11:34 AM
Homedepot is where i get the resin. Its 23 a gallon. You could also pick up 9 cu ft of fiberglass mat while ur at it and use that with the resin to get extra strength.

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Posted By: Geeque
Date Posted: December 17, 2003 at 11:44 AM
Consider putting a layer of dynamat in the middle to create a sheet of dynaply. Cut out any possibility of resonance.

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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 19, 2003 at 4:48 AM
ok, whats the name of the fiberglass stuff? or do i just look for fiberglass resin? also.. whats dynaply?

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: December 19, 2003 at 12:56 PM
Fiberglass resin. It will be in a blue and tan metal thing with a plastic top. The mat comes in 9 sq ft packs for about 4.90. If you do stack the wood to make it 1 inch first sand the 2 sides going together with a VERY low grit paper, then pour on a ton of wood glue, paint it all around. Then i would stack them and drive one of ur car tires onto it and let it sit all night. Ive done it and it seems to work the best!:) hope that helps

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dream it, build it, fiberglass it




Posted By: Durwood
Date Posted: December 21, 2003 at 5:38 AM

NaughtyLMnky wrote:

I'd just do like Maxst said and stack the two 1/2 inch sheets for a 1 inch thickness.  I've committed some overkill before and stacked 3/4 inch mdf for some fifteens before.  It turned out really tight.  Otherwise if you don't want to go that route just use lots of bracing and glue.  Either way it will be a little bit more work, but for the free mdf its worth it.  Free usually sounds pretty good either way you do it.

This reminds me of something funny I saw the other day.  A friend's teenaged son was showing me his first stereo install.  It all looked pretty good until he got to the trunk.  He had used 1/2" *particleboard* for the sub enclosure.  Now I know that even MDF is technically "particleboard", since it's extremely small pieces of wood held together with glue, but this stuff was honest-to-god particleboard, the kind with the big splintery chunks all pressed together with a little bit of glue.

I didn't want to give him a hard time, since it was his first-ever effort, and he was very proud of it, but I think if he still has that box the next time I see him, I may build a proper box with him as a project.

Scott Gardner





Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: December 21, 2003 at 1:38 PM
Alright gents. Thanks for all your help. I'll be heading up to home depot soon :) thanks for everything. I'll keep you all updated.

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: Overcranked23
Date Posted: December 21, 2003 at 4:20 PM
Listen I used to work for a pro sound company we built PRO boxs for concerts and we used 5/8's in Triple bond plywood for the boxs and 5/8's temple(MDF) for the baffles and we never had a problem with the boxes and this company was in business for 34 years everynow and then we would get a box back from the late 70's and it would just need new speakers or horn.. its not the thickness its the craftsmanship Always triple bond Glue Staple and Screw and Brace Unless you plan on hitting 150 db's dont worry about the 1/2 in

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