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Topic: Audiobahn Immortal Series

Posted By: Higgins44
Subject: Audiobahn Immortal Series
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 8:11 AM

Ok Well here is the situation I am looking into getting 2 12" Audiobahn Immortal Subs, with the 4- 2 ohm set-up my question is how or is it possible to wire it up to get a 1-ohm load and this is just one sub not both wired together to get a 1-ohm load. Also I would appreciate any input on these subs or other ways of wiring

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2003 Cavalier LS Sport Coupe, System currently under construction



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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 9:06 AM

im suggesting you do not go near audiobahn.  Some will say they are the best, but everyone else will say they suck. 

How much you are going to spend on subs and amp and we all here will fit you with a system that'll be good.



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Posted By: Higgins44
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 9:52 AM
I am looking to spend around 700-800 dollars on a system, I already have a 1 farad capactior all wiring ran and a Sony Mx800 headunit and all interior speakers replaced and amped i'm just lookin for a good sub setup

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2003 Cavalier LS Sport Coupe, System currently under construction




Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 10:26 AM
What kind of sound are you looking for? Are you competing? Also what kind of music do you listen to?




Posted By: Higgins44
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 10:33 AM
I listen to primarily Rap and rock, I am not looking into competing but it's not been completley ruled out, I am looking for a good mix of SPL and SQ and I'm open to any and all suggestions

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2003 Cavalier LS Sport Coupe, System currently under construction




Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 11:52 AM

Adires Shiva- https://adireaudio.com/mobile_audio/drivers/shiva.htm

Elemental Designs e12k : https://www.edesignaudio.com/ep2/12k.htm

Both these will give you good spl and SQ- more on the SQ side, but they are good subs.  I would make a ported box for them- slot port 

Then for amp JBL 1200.1 would do right.  Total would bring you below your spending range if you shop wisely i believe.



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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 12:03 PM

The only thing that Audiobahn products would be good for is a show-car that would never be started or sound system never used.posted_image

A friend of mine who buys and resells, bought a container of Audiobahn products and while he did make his money back, we tested some and blew at least 8 of the high excursions(I think that was the model) in everyones cars. And one of the amps started on fire inside. It kept on playing while his car started filling up with smoke on the freeway!posted_image I have a halon fire extinguisher in my car but he has a regular one that made a huge mess of his previously beautiful trunk. He just had to do a lot of vacuuming and carpet dying. I highly recommend a halon extinguisher to anyone who is into "safety" and doesn't want to make a mess of your car. Halon's starve the surrounding air of oxygen so the fire can't burn.

A.



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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 2:57 PM
Maxst made some good suggestions, but i would look into some Eclipse Aluminums https://www.eclipse-web.com/products/speaker/index.html they will give you some amazing spl as well as excellent sq. I would also suggest powering them with a JBL 1200.1. You should be able to get the whole setup for around $800




Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 6:46 PM
Go with bberman I have one eclipse aluminum 15 running off the alpine mrd-m500. It hits all the lows lower than any system around and still sounds extreamly clean. Hope that helps you out

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 7:30 PM
Dont ever go near Audiobahn. Total trash unless you want to use it as a seat warmer or to hold open your hood while you work in your car. They might play loud but they suck at doing it and they dont sound good either even at low volumes. All audiobahn wants to do is attract young people(under 20 with no experience who are regular best buy/circuit city shoppers) to buy their products. It works because none of them know that looks dont make it sound good. STAY away from audiobahn. I would rather buy Aiwa products and that is saying somethin.




Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 9:14 PM
The subs you are talking about are very good and I think they would really produce some good bass I have personly installed one 15 immortal that hit over a 150 so I see nothing wrong with getting 2 12 or any audiobahn products but everyone has there own opion on the products they like




Posted By: kingfridae
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 10:54 PM

   Let's talk facts:  Every line in car audio has an entry level speaker, amp etc.

This is the case with audiobahn and other major name brands.  I think a big problem is that there are alot of people that think they can go out and buy a 75.00 12 inch speaker and hit a 150db with it.  Anyone who thinks this needs to mature in this hobby.  The audiobahn 1251 is a good entry level speaker as long as it is not overpowered!  Same with JL or KICKER or whatever.  Alot of people have bought the lesser expensive models and overpowered them simply because they havent matured!  The Immortal is a hell of a speaker that can take a beating.  Most companys do not make a speaker of this calibur.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with audiobahn!  In fact they are one of the biggest, fastest growing, car audio companys out there.  My main point in this Reply is that Every company makes a entry level sub and they cant be judged on that.  -KF





Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 11:02 PM
good job kingfridae I completly agree with you




Posted By: 97neon
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 11:24 PM
audiobahn is pretty good man, some people just seem to hate it, i have awt15x, i hit 149.2 with 2 memphis 1000'ds, stock alternator, and it was in a 1997 dodge neon, no dynamat, im sure if i had a bigger trunk i cold get louder, the immortal is suppose to be all spl htough, so should be even louder than mine, and for the price it's a good deal,




Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 12:56 AM
Kingfridae I strongly disagree with you, I have owned several top of the line Audiobahn subs. The SQ was not that great and they all ended up the same way dead.  I never (well almost never) abused them. I gave them the proper power, xover settings; enclosures etc and they always let me down. But Pyramid and Boss Audio (which I have owned as well) are among one of the largest manufactures out their but that dose not necessarily mean that they have a good product. I’m not trying to bash you or anything just voices my experiences. But I do have to say Audiobahn makes some strong amps.




Posted By: kingfridae
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:26 AM

   Im not addressing just anybody.  To go a little further into this - I have a car audio store here in Texas.  I have been in business about 5 years.  I sell several different lines and audiobahn is one of them.  From "MY" experience I havent had that many returns on any audiobahn products.  Sure there were some but all my lines have had a few returns.  Audiobahn has been my best selling product thus far.  The number one reason I get returns is because what I mentioned earlier.  To much abuse on smaller subs - Distortion will blow a sub quick I dont care how big or small the amp is.   Audiobahn deserves to be listed at the top with other big names.  At the same time I see some people who don't like them on this forum - There are 5 times as many that do.  Go to a show or competition you will see alot of people with Audiobahn!  - KF 





Posted By: JiggaFan
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:34 AM

I like Audiobahn ALUM12x/ALUM12 (2001/2000) model Aluminum cone series subs.  but i hit 142.2 out of the trunk on new Termpro mic with 3 ALUM12q in <1.0 cuft sealed each powered by a single JBL BP1200.1 at about 43Hz.

i do believe as time goes on, there new basket designs hamper subwoofer performance.  I found that the 2000/2001 AW/ALUM series basket design hit better than that newer 2002 monstrosity of a basket on.  And the 2001/2000 models had better longevity.  Also, the AW1251T sounds like ass, whereas I've heard others say their earlier entry level subs sounded good.

but i must also admit, i just figured out how to PRECISELY set my amp gains using a multimeter and test tracks.  so my inaccurate gain settings may have contributed to the demise of my earlier Audiobahn products.

also, just as with Pyramid and Boss, less knowledgeable consumers are usually purchasing Audiobahn's entry level equipment and are probably abusing their equipment...then they biitch and complain "Audiobahn SUCKS!"

buy y'all internet subwoofer bandwagon fans keep on ridin': AudioMobile, RE/Onyx, etc.





Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:43 AM

The Audiobahns that I tried were properly wired to my old Alpine MRV-1503 crossed over correctly and definitely had enough clean power. Correct size box as well.  All I did was pound the living Sh*t out of them which is what a sub is for, Right? I was "testing" them and did find that they got hot and melted voice coil. As far as SPL goes, they DO move a lot of air. And if you want something affordable that moves a whole lot of air and will definitely pleas you, get some MTX 8000 series. Mine have performed great for 2 years with up to 1650 watts and 3f cap pounding like an earthquake. When I sell them to someone, I will feel very good because I know they will be 100% satisfied.

Angel



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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 11:11 AM

I dunno how much a audiobahn sub costs, cause they are for looks anyways...

for something in the ballpark of 380 you can get a brahma 12, which is along the lines of the W7. you'd only need one.



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Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 12:21 PM
What's this I hear about setting gains with a multimeter?  I've always done it by ear, using CD tracks that I was familiar with and had good success.  How would you go about doing something like this?

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 3:15 PM
kingfridae what other lines are you talking about that you sell. It sounds like sony and boss audio to me if you have had about the same amount of returns as audiobahn. Audiobahn deserves the trash bin unless your want an overpriced sub for spl only. If all you want your trunk to do is look good and rattle audiobahn is for you ,that is why you see so many of their products at car shows. Otherwise save your money for something better like Eclipse's Aluminum series subs or JL's W6v2 subs or their W7 line. Any of these could beat audiobahn anyday.




Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 4:56 PM

OOOOOHHHHH JL7'sposted_image ......OOOOOhhhhhh the day. Someday the day will come. Just..... have....to....make.....more... money. Must...make...more...money.     Must...... buy...... JL7's...... Need JL7's.......

Those Brahma 10's sound pretty damn good too! (Forgot the companys name)

2 10" JL7's are  gonna be my christmas present to myself this year.



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Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 5:44 PM
JL audio is basically used for good SQ not SPL I feel the audiobahn immortals are a way better SPL sub than a JLW7 but I won't argue about JL being better for SQ they just not good for me because I like SPL better and you get way more SPL for the money out of audiobahn I know you can get 1 immortal 15 for $350 at Durhams Car Audio but I dont know how much a JLW7 is but I bet its a lot more and not near the SPL




Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 6:06 PM
I would like to see if an audiobahn could go louder then a JL W7. Like I said Audiobahn is fine for SPL when you dont care how it sounds just how loud it plays.




Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 6:11 PM
I have heard both and I know auidiobahn out does JLW7 in SPL but I don't pay any attention to SQ at comp. so I wouldn't know




Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 6:30 PM

Actually JL isnt only for SQ at all. And do you base your knowledge of Audiobahn out-doing JL by ear or by SPL read-out?





Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 6:52 PM

Adire audio makes brahma's  I'd get single 12 with a jbl 1200.1 if i had the money and tools to make everything.

audiobling may- stressing- hit harder...but they dont last. 



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Posted By: kingfridae
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 8:51 PM

  SBROCK Thanks for the mention of my business!  :)  Actually here at Durham's I can hook a person up with a Immortal 15 for around 299.99!

Audiobahn Immortals will for sure take a JL on SPL!  By METER!  I like JL just fine too.  But if you want some high DB Get the IMMORTAL!  -KF





Posted By: kingfridae
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 8:53 PM

 ALSO for the person who asked what else I sell...  Kicker, Planet Audio, Alphasonik, MMats, Audiopipe, Coustic, and most all name brand head units.

-KF





Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:28 PM
customsuburb wrote:

Actually JL isnt only for SQ at all. And do you base your knowledge of Audiobahn out-doing JL by ear or by SPL read-out?


both





Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:31 PM

umm...it wasnt in the same car with the same setup.  That'll affect everything.



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Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 10:52 PM
your right but it still my opinion that the immortal is the better sub for the money do you think the W& or any sub at that can out do the DD 9500 series subs in spl




Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 11:04 PM

Has anyone seen a Cerwin Vega Stroker in action? A friend sells the and they look pretty bad-ass. And I know from experience at home the CV's will pound forever. I have 2 CV RE30 12's that are about 12 years old and still sound like new and will definitely piss off tyhe neighbors.

A



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Posted By: sbrock
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 11:07 PM
the strokers are sort of old school but I have heard them and yes they definitely hit hard they are an excellent sub for SPL they handle a whole lot of power




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: February 04, 2004 at 11:38 PM
Well opinions are like butt holes, everbodys got one. I think people should use the gear that they like and not what's popular. I run amps that people say suck , but i think they work very well. I sell stuff to, and I don't get many returns on "boss" products or pyrimid for that matter. logic also sells well. I say if you like audiobahn run it. if you like JL run it. if you like boss run it. if you like RF run it. I have seen kids bring in RF, and kicker, and JL subs that were fried to. any brand can take a dump. If your abuseing the sub sooner or latter it's gonna burn. and so what thats what it's for crank'm up and let'm rip.

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 05, 2004 at 4:40 PM
Well ,you dont really gain that much more spl if you push a sub over its limits really ,so its pretty pointless to just add 50 or more watts to a sub just to gain that little amount of volume ,unless you like to replace subs alot.





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