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SVC or DVC

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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Topic: SVC or DVC

Posted By: davedyer79
Subject: SVC or DVC
Date Posted: September 10, 2004 at 12:59 PM

What's everyone's opionion?  I have a Memphis 500D, 2 ohm stable.  Before I had 2 Memphis 10" single voice 4ohm.  Should I get the DVC 10"?  Is there a sound quality difference between single and dual voice coil speakers?  Also, how will I wire 2 DVC 4 ohm to a 2 ohm stable amp.  It cannot go to 1 ohm or the amp will clip.

Thanks, Wayne.



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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: September 10, 2004 at 1:22 PM
Not gonna happen dude. There should be no audable difference between the two types of subs. The difference is how they wire to any chosen amplifier. 2 dvc 4 ohm subs will yield only these possible combinations. 1 ohm, 4 ohm, 16 ohm. You are much better off with the single 4 ohm subs with the amp that you have.

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Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: September 10, 2004 at 1:53 PM
The only advantage a DVC has over a SVC is if you have only one sub. With a DVC you are able to wire it in parallel to drop the impedance in half. Other than that, stick with SVC's, they're easier to work with. posted_image

Paul




Posted By: 12-volt_guy
Date Posted: September 10, 2004 at 3:28 PM
Francious70 wrote:

The only advantage a DVC has over a SVC is if you have only one sub. With a DVC you are able to wire it in parallel to drop the impedance in half. Other than that, stick with SVC's, they're easier to work with. posted_image

Paul
 
Might be good to add that you should NOT wire DVC woofers in parallel (4-Ohm each) if you're bridging an amplifier.  The amp will see a load half of the woofer, or 1-Ohm in this case.  You don't want to do that unless you have a very high-current amplifier.




Posted By: 12-volt_guy
Date Posted: September 10, 2004 at 3:34 PM
davedyer79 wrote:

Also, how will I wire 2 DVC 4 ohm to a 2 ohm stable amp.  It cannot go to 1 ohm or the amp will clip.

Thanks, Wayne.


The answer to that is to wire each woofer with a short jumper between one coil's POS+ and the other coil's NEG- terminal.  Do this to both woofers.  Then wire the remaining terminals in parallel to the amp, both POS+ to POS+ and both NEG- to NEG-.  This will result in a 4-Ohm load on the amp.





Posted By: davedyer79
Date Posted: September 12, 2004 at 7:45 PM
Thanks for the responses.  I think I will stick with the SVC 10" subs.  The reason I asked is that I had a guy at a very well known car electronics store tell me that DVC's will sound like 2 subs if you use both coils, and I thought that sound a little far-fetched.  Maybe he was trying to sell me the DVC's so I would buy a new amp.  D*#$ those pushy saleman!!

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: September 13, 2004 at 8:37 AM

davedyer79 wrote:

I had a guy at a very well known car electronics store tell me that DVC's will sound like 2 subs if you use both coils,

He was probably just, in fact, an idiot.



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Posted By: tbirdman74
Date Posted: September 13, 2004 at 9:07 AM
stevdart wrote:

He was probably just, in fact, an idiot.


AMEN Brother!



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Posted By: padawan
Date Posted: September 13, 2004 at 10:26 AM
You can also get two dual 2-ohm subs and wire them in series/parallel and get a 2-ohm final load to the amp...this will give u 250W rms per sub with your amp...

Subs like Kicker CompVRs would thrive off a setup like this...Dual 2-ohm compvr 10s have an rms rating of 300W rms, so giving them each 250W rms would be fine.




Posted By: hurtado_roberto
Date Posted: October 07, 2004 at 7:56 PM
The only reason for a DVC is for adaptability?  Will a 4ohm SVC sub sound the same as a 8ohm DVC sub from the same manufacture and series if wired at 4ohm?  Will it use the same amount of RMS watts?  Will the ratings be different a the different ohm loads?

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: October 07, 2004 at 8:04 PM
some charatistics will be diffrent nothing like free air resonant and sound but some parameters based on how the sub is wired will change....the eclipses I have list both parralel and series speaker prameters now thats taking time in your product

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Posted By: Wiseguy
Date Posted: October 08, 2004 at 1:04 PM

davedyer79 wrote:

I had a guy at a very well known car electronics store tell me that DVC's will sound like 2 subs if you use both coils D*#$ those pushy saleman!!

i guess his subs dont last long if he believes that u can use only one coil on a dvc subposted_image



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Posted By: Rushman
Date Posted: October 08, 2004 at 10:01 PM
I can vouch for those Kicker comp VRs Padawan spoke of. I have that very set up in my F-150. Its a very flexable system that can pound out the SPLs and works well as a SQ system.





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