Advice on an amp

I need a little advice on which high powered amp to get. I need it to run at 1 ohm mono, and I think all 3 of these will. I can get the Orion 2500D for $769, the Hifonics Brutus 2200D for $439, or the Concept 2400D for $499. The Orion is a lot more expensive, but I am pretty sure of what it can do. The other 2, I'm not quiet so sure of. Or if you have another amp in this price range that can run 1 ohm mono let me know about it. I want at least 2000 watts RMS.  

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'85 Toy

You can get the Orion for around $450 over at ikesound.com.

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Thanks pimpincavy. I will check ikesound. The last time I looked on that site they didn't have a price on that amp. Any other ideas? Anybody?

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'85 Toy

Alrighty lets look at the choices here. I have never had an issue with the orion stuff but I never used or sold that series of amps. They have always been solid for me. The Hifonics amps are spoken very highly of on this site and seem to have a good rep for doing what they claim and at a decent price. As for the last abomination you speak of, one of the locals places in town carry those bricks and have had nothing but issues with that amp. I guess they fry like eggs and do it often. I have seen people recomend them on this site but when I personally have seen 3 of them put on some pretty smoke shows I cant trust em. BTW that same local place tags that amp at 2200 bucks. Geeez I dunno, mabye they over retailed them just a tad?. If you can get that orion at the price that the pimp said than I would recomend that, if not then I would give the hifonics a hard look and see if you can find out a little more about them

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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer

fusion also makes a 2500 d, it's a really nice amp, there is also the visonik 4000 class x, suposed to have one a lot of awards for the new design called x, it eliminates dc distortion in normall digital amps suposed to prolong the life of subs, i dunno, check em out tho

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i ment won up there, sorry im an idiot

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If you use it. Suport it. Donate to the 12 volt!

as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.  you should be able to  wire your system up in 4 ohms also so dont limit yourself to the one ohm amps.  good luck

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I think I'm leaning more and more towards the Orion. The Hifonics amps used to be great amps, but I'm not sure about their newer stuff. As far as the Fusion and Visonik, I'll look at them, but I know nothing at all about either of them. I'll drop the Concept out of the running based on what Ravendarat said.

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'85 Toy

IM pretty shure that the Fusion is a re badged Orion actually.

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I cant find the Orion on ikkesound anymore, but the Viper 2500D https://ikesound.com/product-product_id/2425 might do the trick.  I think it might be a rebadged Orion to.

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Ive hooked up two or three of those viper amps and at 355.00 that is well worth it plenty of power for that price!!!!

the orion and the viper are both Directed products, to the best of my knowledge, good amps, both the same, fusion has absolutly nothing to do with either of those tho, it's not rebadged, it is a very good product, at one of their shows i talked to one of the designers who said for competition they drop the fusion amp down to a .5 ohm load and have experienced no problems, i belive it, memphis also makes some very nice amps, but that's a lot of cash to throw around for their stuff

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I called ikesound and the Orion 2400D has went up in price to $769. The problem with the Viper is it is 2500x1 at 2ohms, not 1 ohm. They said they have the Hifonics 2200D for $325 and that it is a very reliable amp with hardly no complaints. That seems like a very good price, so I guess I might just try one out and see for myself. If anybody knows anything negative about this amp reply back.   

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'85 Toy

I have never had one but I have heard very good things

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Cadence, MMATS, and US Amps are all good. Check into them as well: www.cadencesound.com www.mmatsproaudio.com www.usamps.com

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

captanham is right DEI owns directed/viper/orion/ppi.  good stout amps but i dont think the orions have the ballz they used too.  have you seen the new orion 5000 west coast chopper edition? big chromed out over hyped piece o'crap if you ask me.  we connected one to 2 dd9512s and actually metered lower than we did with my old school orion xtrpro 2400.  even though we had the xtr pro running 1 ohm, its only supposed to be stable to 2 ohms, but we all know better than that

anyway heres what i come up with for you @ 1 ohm around 2kw:

alphasonik pma 1200da-2470watts, pma 1000da-2060watts; audison vrx 1.500.2-2000watts; db drive platinum 2000-2000watts; digital audio dhc1604-2400w, dhc 1204-2000w; jbl bpx2200.1-1810w(cea rated); mmats d3000.1-2500w; niche audio na6000d-2400w; power bass r-xx 2000w; rockford t20001bd-2000w; soundstream ega 2000dx-2000w; swiss audio sdx 2000a-2000w; visonik v918xd-1800w, v2020t-2000w, xsite xad2k-2000w

if it were me id do a us amps 2000x-2000w at 4 ohm mono, .oo6%thd, dampening factor 2500

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yea us amps are definetly the way to go i'd say, i forgot about digital audio, that's a fairly new company, owned by wholesale house, from what i've heard, but it's good product, i've had very good experience with them, how have you bench tested amps rms output?, what kinda $$ is involved in getting that equipment? just curious, i think it's cool to beable to actually test out sytem outputs

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that list is just some amps that i had researched and made calls to the manf. on for competition and have in a data base.  i have not used most of those products.  wish i could afford to though!  output power i list is what the manf. publishes so alot of them may only happen if lightning strikes the amp, others may be kind of conservative to get around power rating rules in usaci.  goes back to 'you get what you pay for'

as far as testing amps goes, we use an o-scope on the amps in car, adjust gains till the wave barely starts to square at the top and then measure output voltage at that setting.  so output varies on the same amp by charging system in each car.  i recently ordered my own term lab meter so i can meter the spl in the car and see the wave as produced by the subs, not just the amp.  i think itll help because then we can jack the gains up on the amps till the subs 'clip',  that will take into account impedance spikes in the enclosure and we can get a more accurate output measurement.  the way we do measuring is very 'getto' but gives me rough estimate overall, and a very good estimate on amps ive tested in the same way.  even bought some amps last year before they went into full scale production and the manf. was calling us for info on real world output and impedance capabilities.

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btw for your very own term lab meter goto

www.termpro.com

and follow the links.  very helpful tool.

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thanks a lot, that seems like a really good product i haven't seen before, thnx

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