4-12" kicker comp
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Printed Date: May 22, 2024 at 10:43 PM
Topic: 4-12" kicker comp
Posted By: cruelneo
Subject: 4-12" kicker comp
Date Posted: February 16, 2005 at 12:21 PM
i have 4 comps down fire in a box that has 1.45 cu. ft. per sub. also on 2 punch old school 200 ix. 1 amp for two subs wired to 4 ohm. want to get more spl out of it and keep the box and amp. (i have room to cut a square hole if need be) is there any ideas on how to get more bass out of my car kicker comp vr or solo l7 or a kind of jl sub my car is geared to both spl and sq so i need a sub that can do both thanks for any help.
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Posted By: newtone
Date Posted: February 16, 2005 at 8:59 PM
your sub set up sounds sweet, the kicker comp vrs are pretty loud subs, imo you wouldnt gain much by swapping to a different type. try maybe a big bad amp instead. look for 4 or 1 ohm stereo or 2 ohm mono. if you think thats an avenue you may want to pursue, let me know, i have just the amp you need, cheap -------------
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: February 16, 2005 at 10:57 PM
You have enough displacement. Your solution is simple. You now need more power. Sell your amps. Buy new ones.
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Posted By: cruelneo
Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 2:12 PM
i was always told punch 200 was one of the best amps out there it is very under rated u saying it dosent have enough power
Posted By: newtone
Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 5:58 PM
how much power do they make at your impedance?
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Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 7:36 AM
i would go down to your local kicker dealer, and ask to talk to the installer. not the sales guy. have him listen to it, and if hes any good, he'll probalby be able to rattle off a few quick and easy solutions. if you talk to the sales guy he'll be seeing dollars, but the installer will probably have a different pov. his experience and knowlage of product should come in handy. -------------
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 12:03 PM
I mean, no one has pointed out the big flaw to your idea. You can't just go "cutting holes" in sealed subwoofer boxes to make them sound good ported. Your options are simply for more SPL: Redesign the box or increase the power. If you can't increase the power any more or don't want to - redesign the box. Redesign means rebuild - not ghetto rig your current box.
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Posted By: cruelneo
Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 12:53 PM
no i wasnt going to cut ports i was going to replace the circle 12in whole with 15in square holes
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 2:05 PM
Oh... I see - to put in new 15" drivers. This would be smart. You could greatly increase your efficiency and thus your SPL.
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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 2:08 PM
I'd still make a whole new box. I'm not a fan of square drivers if you're at all interested in SQ.
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Posted By: cruelneo
Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 2:20 PM
SEE THATS WHAT I thought the sq. subs dont give very much sq do they i could put cvr subs
Posted By: dangerranger96
Date Posted: February 26, 2005 at 11:48 AM
i have a friend with 6 Kicker Comp 12"s (not VR) his car has great sq and spl. but hes not running 2 200w amps, hes running a 3600w amp... big difference between when he used to have it set up on 1100w. try more power
Posted By: cruelneo
Date Posted: February 26, 2005 at 11:59 AM
dont get me wrong the comps hit but just not as hard as i would like and the rms on them is 150 those amps that i put say they give 200 but its way more what kind of box did he put the 6 comps in and what kind of car
Posted By: dangerranger96
Date Posted: February 26, 2005 at 6:37 PM
it was a fiberglass box that was ported each sub had about a 1ft of airspace it was in a buick lesabre
Posted By: dangerranger96
Date Posted: February 26, 2005 at 6:49 PM
btw your running roughly 500w max to 4 subs and he was running 3600w max to 6 subs which rms power would be 250w compared to 1800w basically he was running 300w rms a sub and your running about 63.... big difference
Posted By: cruelneo
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 10:01 AM
danger i know it seams that way but these are cheater amps and there power is a lot more then it says.
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850 volvo
10-8" kicker freeair on
old punch 250 p.c.
3 sets of 6.5" 4" 1" mbquarts
bi-amped on 3 alpine mrv-f340
2-jl 6" subs in doorpannel
on old punch 40ix
and running it all
kenwood kdc-x87
Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 3:24 PM
i would just like to say that kickers square subs sound great. i install them every day, and i've also heard many other subs that don't come close. the are the best of both wolrds, as far as the big names go. -------------
Posted By: mrmsudawgs
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 4:19 PM
Cruelneo -
Let me know if you want to sell one of those old amps. I'd be interested.
Mike
Posted By: audiobass10
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 6:59 PM
soundmasta...you think the squre subs sound great? Sigh..sealed they are just tolerable IMO.
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Dave
Pioneer Premier DEH-P660
15" Kicker CVR
Profile AP1000M
It's Loud
Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 7:12 PM
I must agree. The square ones aren't the worst but short of Xtant, I haven't heard any really nice non-round speakers. ------------- Nik
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Posted By: dangerranger96
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 9:27 PM
same here.... the square subs dont have near the same sound quality as what i have heard out of round subs, they have spl but not sound quality... example: 2001 camaro 2 12" L7's in a very nicely built fiberglass box, the car was loud, but it sounded like crap, i felt bad for the guy who paid what he did for it
Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 11:27 PM
I sure do love those triangle Bazookas!!!! ------------- Nik
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Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 7:46 AM
i think you guys are listenting to different subs...i have heard them sound like sh*t before, but trust me, i installed at least 100 of them last summer, and nothing pulls out of my garage that sounds like sh*t. it's in the install.
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Posted By: cruelneo
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 9:30 AM
i never liked the square subs they have great spl but they sound to rough
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850 volvo
10-8" kicker freeair on
old punch 250 p.c.
3 sets of 6.5" 4" 1" mbquarts
bi-amped on 3 alpine mrv-f340
2-jl 6" subs in doorpannel
on old punch 40ix
and running it all
kenwood kdc-x87
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