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Topic: i'm about to get this amp

Posted By: bmw9786
Subject: i'm about to get this amp
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 12:25 AM

im about to cop this amp  https://www.sonicelectrnix.com/item_2056.html  to run 3, 12 inch audiobahns 700 rms a peace https://www.sonicelectrnix.com/item_131.html.in a sealed box, and i was wondering if it will be ok to run this amp becasue it will be at a 2ohm level putting out around 1400 watts 2 my 3 SUBS THAT ARE 700 RMS A PEACE AND 1400 MAX ,so will it be ok like this or will it blow my subs because its "to much power"? thank u all 4 ur help!

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 1:29 AM
Sigh.

First, piece is spelled "piece," not "peace" like war and peace.

Second, 3 dual 4-ohm drivers will give a 2.67 ohm load. So you'll get less than 1400w out of that amp. Even if you did get 1400 watts out of the amp, 1400 / 3 = 466, not 700.

Third, that stuff, especially the amplifier, is not quality for the money. You can do better. Stick around here for a bit and you'll see what good values are.

Unless your goal is to obtain a system that _might_ get loud, will probably break early, cost more than it should, and sound bad, don't get that setup.

I mean, dear god, here's a nice infinity reference woofer for less than that audiobahn from a reputable and authorized online retailer: https://www.cardomain.com/item/INFREF1232W

Here's a nice decent quality blaupunkt amp for you at the same price: https://www.cardomain.com/item/BLAPCA1300


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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 1:39 AM
kfr01] wrote:

igh.

First, piece is spelled "piece," not "peace" like war and peace.

Second, 3 dual 4-ohm drivers will give a 2.67 ohm load. So you'll get less than 1400w out of that amp. Even if you did get 1400 watts out of the amp, 1400 / 3 = 466, not 700.

Third, that stuff, especially the amplifier, is not quality for the money. You can do better. Stick around here for a bit and you'll see what good values are.

Unless your goal is to obtain a system that _might_ get loud, will probably break early, cost more than it should, and sound bad, don't get that setup.

  thanks 4 the info but i disagrree with u on the amp. my friend has one and he has the same exact subs as me in a triple sealed box and it is one of the loudest systems i have ever herd, have u had any experiences with this amp? or do u just not like boss? im on a budget and i have researched a hole bunch about this amp and the most common review i see about it is " i was unshure about this amp at 1st and wastnt shure what it was guna do but then i hooked it up and it pounded the hell outta my subs, its a really good value for the money ur spending"

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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 1:45 AM

correction he has this boss amp https://www.sonicelectrnix.com/item_218.html and it pounds the HELL out of the subs, what do u think about this amp kfr01?



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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:09 AM
Researched a "whole" (not spelled "hole") bunch, have you?

You do know that "whole" implies that you researched the entire body of knowledge on this amplifier, right?

Tell me, during all this extensive research did you ever learn the fuse rating on this amp?

I know you're on a budget. I think you're getting ripped off.



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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:12 AM
kfr01] wrote:

esearched a "whole" (hole) bunch, have you?

You do know that "whole" implies that you researched the entire body of knowledge on this amplifier, right?

Tell me, during all this extensive research did you ever learn the fuse rating on this amp?

I know you're on a budget. I think you're getting ripped off.


  fuse rating on the 1st amp is 30Ax3 , what is it that u have against the amp i want to get

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:15 AM
I think there are more honestly rated, clean, and reliable amplifiers WITH A WARRANTY for the same amount of money.

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:18 AM
kfr01] wrote:

think there are more honestly rated, clean, and reliable amplifiers for the same amount of money.
  can u list some  amps that will put out enough rms power to power 3, 700rms audiobahns for around 200-250? IM JUST TRYN 2 GET MY SYSTEM TO POUND AND WHAT IVE HERD FROM MY FRIENDS CAR MAKES ME A BOSS BELIEVER!

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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:19 AM
Just looking at an amp like this might tell you that sound quality isn't an issue. They amount of power to the dollar amount you are about to spend sounds very suspicious.

I too was at point where you are, with little money and appetite for bass, but I quickly learned that all that flash does little for the bang.

I would take what is being said her very serious, spending money on flashy items like this and those subs, winds up being very ignorant.

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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:21 AM
Just looking at an amp like this might tell you that sound quality isn't a priority. The amount of power to the dollar amount you are about to spend sounds very suspicious.

I too was at point where you are, with little money and appetite for bass, but I quickly learned that all that flash doesn't get very loud.

I would take what is being said her very serious, spending money on flashy items like this and those subs, winds up being very frustrating.

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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:21 AM
dwarren wrote:

Just looking at an amp like this might tell you that sound quality isn't an issue. They amount of power to the dollar amount you are about to spend sounds very suspicious.

I too was at point where you are, with little money and appetite for bass, but I quickly learned that all that flash does little for the bang.

I would take what is being said her very serious, spending money on flashy items like this and those subs, winds up being very ignorant.
  i am listening to every thing u guys are sayn, and im telln u guys what ive personialy herd from these boss amps, and these subs( i already own the subs) im just tryn 2 see if this amp will have enough power to make my 3 subs BANG

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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:25 AM
No I don't have personal experience with that amp, but COMMON SENSE will tell you that it is not worth the money.

But hey you heard it and it sounds great, get it, but you asked us what we thought, we told you, you don't like we have to say

good luck

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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:27 AM
dwarren wrote:

No I don't have personal experience with that amp, but COMMON SENSE will tell you that it is not worth the money.

But hey you heard it and it sounds great, get it, but you asked us what we thought, we told you, you don't like we have to say

good luck
its not that i dont like what u have 2 say, im just telln u from my point of view, i appreciate it very much that u guys are helping me

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:33 AM
Here's some advice.

Go with 1 or 2 subs. 3 is a waste of money, in my opinion. The 3rd sub adds less than two decibels of SPL. This is small. Spend the extra money on a pair of better quality 15" woofers instead. Build a ported box rather than a small sealed box if you have room.

These would be excellent and a pair will be LOUDER AND SOUND BETTER than 3 of those Audiobahn drivers: https://www.cardomain.com/item/JBLGT150D

Then get that blaupunkt I posted above. Your system will sound MUCH MUCH better, play DEEPER, be just as loud as your friend's system, last longer, and be covered by warranty. Oh yeah, and cost less.

450 watts will also be much friendlier to your car's electrical system.

I feel the system I've recommended is superior in just about every way to the setup you've posted.

That's not the point though. The point is that you should stick around here and learn how to put together your own system rather than just buying the same *cough* your friend has.

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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:40 AM
kfr01] wrote:

ere's some advice.

Go with 1 or 2 subs. 3 is a waste of money, in my opinion. The 3rd sub adds less than two decibels of SPL. This is small. Spend the extra money on a pair of better quality 15" woofers instead. Build a ported box rather than a small sealed box if you have room.

These would be excellent and a pair will be LOUDER AND SOUND BETTER than 3 of those Audiobahn drivers: https://www.cardomain.com/item/JBLGT150D

Then get that blaupunkt I posted above. Your system will sound MUCH MUCH better, play DEEPER, be just as loud as your friend's system, last longer, and be covered by warranty. Oh yeah, and cost less.

450 watts will also be much friendlier to your car's electrical system.

I feel the system I've recommended is superior in just about every way to the setup you've posted.

That's not the point though. The point is that you should stick around here and learn how to put together your own system rather than just buying the same *cough* your friend has.
  well i cant buy new subs I ALREADY OWN THEM, and i dont got the money for new ones, and this is the box im putn them in https://www.cardomain.com/item/OBCSSP12388 but i will let u know personially when i got everything togeter and let u no how it sounds, should be w/in a week or 2 but now i got to take a shower so i will continue this discussion later, THANKU 4 UR INPUT!!!!!

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Posted By: projectprotege
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:47 AM
i was once on a budget too, but instead of getting ahead of myself i bought one thing at a time, until i had everything i needed. and now i have a pretty good system(at least im happy with it....just a thought




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:58 AM

As long as you're happy, right?  Stick around and learn more about how to create quality setups without copying your friends.   posted_image



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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 3:25 AM
kfr01] wrote:

p>As long as you're happy, right?  Stick around and learn more about how to create quality setups without copying your friends.   posted_image


 whats wrong w/having the same seup as some one when u think it sounds awesome? and bye the way we just have the same subs, different boxs and if i buy one of those boss amps im guna get the mono not the 2 channel(the one my friend has)

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Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 4:18 AM
Quick question, Have you heard a nice sounding setup and compared it to your friends? I would go to some local retailers and listen to some subs. I was on a budget I bought a rockford fosgate pl3 dual 2 ohm 12" sub (just 1 12" sub) with a kenwood excelon 811d pushing  1000 watts into the sub in a ported enclosure, and i know it sounds better than that setup. research, research.

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Posted By: skoldspuppy
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:20 PM

Alright first off there is nothing wrong with your audiobahns, I use them and they make my wife happy which makes me happy  and thats all that counts in this discussion Your Happiness

Now as for as far as the Boss amp goes, I heard the exact same one you suggested on 2 JL15's and I personally did not like it

Take a look a a few other amps in that price range

1. Hifonics BX1500D "I use it and it pounds the hell out of the audiobahns I have in my wifes car"
2. Memphis 16-MC500D "its only 500 watts at 2ohm, but it pounds my RF subs in my SUV and is extremely clean"
3. MTX MXA8001 "My distributor demoed this for me on 2 TypeR 12's and my chest hurt all day"

All 3 above are in the 200 range if your buying them online
Again were just here to give you some options, but if you really like that boss amp buy it and enjoy it

Good Luck

--Skold



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Posted By: bmw9786
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:34 PM
yo thanks 4 the suggestions wheel and skold, im guna check out those amps u suggested

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 2:56 PM

Sadly my old shop sold Boss on the side for those finacially poor, or technically challenged.  A BOSS amps couldn't hit a correct bass note period, tight crisp bass that makes you hurt inside was just smoothed out into one big signal, completely ruining any reason as to why you would buy subs in the first place.  We have time and time again matched a 2000 watts boss amp up to a tiny alpine MRD-M300, and the alpine rocked the hell outa the boss in every aspect, and it sucked half the power of the boss.

Trust me, look into a better amp, maybe save up another $100 and you will make your friend piss his pants seeing what a real amp can do.



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Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 9:07 PM
Try to find a JBL 600.1, if you can find one for sale, get it!! I have it and its a great amp, doesnt draw power excessivly either. I also found this great deal: https://www.thezeb.com/p-Autotek-SS-550.2-2-Channel-Amplifier-100627.htm
If you go with a amp that is much more powerful than those you will need to upgrade your alternator, if you have the money and are willing to do that i can recommend some more powerful amps for ya.

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Posted By: racer427
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 9:24 PM

Listen to these guy's man. I myself am a budge minded audio freak but, I have found ways to get the equiptment that is the best for the money. Check out E-Bay. I buy alot of audio equiptment on there and when I want to up grade, I also sell the old equiptment that I have on there. I recently bought a MTX Thunder 6500 mono amp from a reputable seller on E-Bay for $135 and man does that amp kick your Ass. I have it running 2 MTX MZX1004's that I also bought on E-Bay for $100 brand new. The setup hits so hard that it makes your heart skip a few beats. Stay away from the cheap stuff as it is for one unreliable and 2 as stated preiously they are way over rated on thier power specs and they shound like Sh*tttttttt.

  Chris



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Alpine CDA-9833 HU
Diamond Audio M661 Components
MTX Thunder T6.6 Components:rear fill:
Cadence Q400 4 Channel Mains + rears
Thunder 801D Subs
MTX 1004 10's
Dual 4g wire to rear
4g grounds




Posted By: racer427
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 10:21 PM

But, I am also currnetly upgrading my system with a MTX 1501D amp and a set of thunder 7510-44 subs.

  Chirs



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Alpine CDA-9833 HU
Diamond Audio M661 Components
MTX Thunder T6.6 Components:rear fill:
Cadence Q400 4 Channel Mains + rears
Thunder 801D Subs
MTX 1004 10's
Dual 4g wire to rear
4g grounds





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