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best amp for $300, channels don’t matter

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Topic: best amp for $300, channels don’t matter

Posted By: chitownsteve
Subject: best amp for $300, channels don’t matter
Date Posted: May 27, 2005 at 9:35 PM

trying to get a good amp for $300 or under what should i look in to?
besides a better job



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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 27, 2005 at 10:01 PM

There's like a thousand amps available right now in your home town for under 300 bucks.  And many times that over the internet.  But, what you're really wanting to know is what brands to look for and what to avoid, I'll bet.  I'll give you one that's hard to find but worth the search:  USacoustics amps.  And one that is usually right around that price range you might want to steer clear of:  Audiobahn.  And there are several other low quality amps to avoid, as well.  A search through Ebay will reveal most of them.

But, your best bet for some good help in getting what you're looking for is to give up some info to the forum...like what is your goal, for one?



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Posted By: lincolnman69
Date Posted: May 27, 2005 at 11:27 PM
it all depends on how much power ur looking for and what ur trying to run.....I looked around online for a month to find an amp that could run 4-12's and finally I came across a the boss powerdrive series amps......I gotta 3000 watt amp that was bridgeable and 1/2 ohm stable from sonic electronix for 249 dollars shipped and it had enough power that it was blowing rods in 2002 series kicker comp vrs with the gain at only 1/2 on 4 of them......it all depends on what ur looking for.......the boss riot and powerdrive series amps are pretty good......I don't know about the rest though




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 1:53 AM
I gotta 3000 watt amp<--- probably more like 500watts

and it had enough power that it was blowing rods in 2002 series kicker comp vrs with the gain at only 1/2 on 4 of them<----and I have never seen a sub that has "RODS"

Frankly if a amp is blowing anything it is either junk, or someone has set it up wrong.

What are you trying to run and we can point you in the RIGHT direction.

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Posted By: chitownsteve
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 2:25 AM
sum jl or same quilty not realy sure yet got bout 300 on that to
heard i can buy other then jl and still have the same bang
but iam not sure what is as good as jl audio




Posted By: chitownsteve
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 2:32 AM
all i need is 2 10s mabey three and 1 good amp

i heard memphis, hifonics, and auto teck is good amps not sure whats best for the money what do u recomend?open to other amps u tell me, just let me know mdel number or what evea i need to know to order 1




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 11:29 AM
So what you need is a subwoofer amp?  What woofers are you planning to use?

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Posted By: lincolnman69
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 3:27 PM

jeffchilcott........... just to let you know while u know that was what I was told from someone who worked with a&s installation in PA, kustom worx in canton, and team pressurized.....i was told that the rods were going when they started making a noise and weren't hitting right any more.......and just to let you know that amp is well over 500 watts since u think u know everything.....before the subs started going they were all slamming and hitting hard as hell........when is the last time u seen a 500 watt amp slam 4 kicker comp vrs..........here is how it is ran since u think it is ran wrong........I have a 200 amp motor city reman performance alternater running 2 batteries including the yellowtop in my trunk with 0/1 guage soundquest wire a 200 amp circuit breaker with the amp bridged pushing 3000watts or pretty damn close @ 4ohms........tell me does it sound like its not ran right to you oh and the specs on the box is 1.25 cubic ft. per sub at 5 cubic ft. for the box and it is a 1/2 octagon sealed.........just so u know

just so u know it is possible to blow subs if the amp is too much for them.......just like u can fry an amp if the subs are too much for it.........





Posted By: lincolnman69
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 3:41 PM
also the amp retails for 450 dollars normally I checked it at a local car stereo shop after I bought it.......not telling u to that boss is the best thing out there just telling u that for the price it is alot better than people think.......there older amps were garbage but they have improved......crossfire and us acoustics are both good if u can find em for cheap......or if u look hard enough u might even find someone gettin rid of a small u.s. amp on ebay for cheap u just gotta look




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 9:11 PM
I am assuming your Boss amps is a Power drive PD3000?

The amp that have 100amps worth of fusing.   hmmmm lets do the math

14.4volts x 100amps = 1440watts MAX   considering this is a very high quality amp, which even you said it wasnt.     it might be at the top with amps that are 90% efficent

That brings you to 1296 Watts Max...so either The Sicentists have been wrong for years and OHM's Law is all out of wack,   or this is the best designed amp ever.

Im am very sorry I know nothing about Car audio, Please if you would come and run my shop for me.   I feel like a complete moron for going to school for a year studying electronics and theroys of AC/DC current.

I will be sure to look for subs containing rods as well, they must be the kind with a small combustion engine inside to add the bass. Funny that Kicker dosent list ROD's on there diagram for the sub.


Anyways All I am trying to do is recommend an amp that will produce the power that is says it will, but you have taken care of that already. Myself and the rest of the Main members of this site will gladly let you share your wisdom further and we will just step away

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: May 28, 2005 at 9:14 PM
Also in response to your other question, I have a 100 watt amp that will pound 4 kicker comp VR's.   Look into it    Memphis hc-100.

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 29, 2005 at 9:56 AM

lincolnman69 wrote:

.....I looked around online for a month to find an amp that could run 4-12's and finally I came across a the boss powerdrive series amps......I gotta 3000 watt amp that was bridgeable and 1/2 ohm stable from sonic electronix for 249 dollars shipped and it had enough power that it was blowing rods in 2002 series kicker comp vrs with the gain at only 1/2 on 4 of them......

]..... wrote:

was told that the rods were going when they started making a noise and weren't hitting right any more.......

lincolnman, I think maybe Daryl and his brother Daryl might have been pulling your leg about blowing a rod.  It was probably the head gasket.  What color was the smoke?



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Posted By: saterdaynight
Date Posted: June 01, 2005 at 3:36 PM
not to interupt a good old fashiond arguement, as they tend to be quite amuseing, but here is my recomendations.

first, i would recomend fosgate amps. you can get them very cheap on ebay and ill let you in on a little tip, if you find a seller that goes by the name of highdesertaudio, that is fosgates factory referbished ebay outlet where you can buy fosgate factory direct with a warenty. i bought a power series 750s witch is 2 chanel that when bridged is 750w rms. love the amp, i actualy have 2 of them. my former system was that amp and 2 fosgate he2 10 subs, very good combo, i was very happy.

i also recomend kicker, but they are a little more expensive, though i have seen one model in paticular that you sould look up on ebay go for about 200 bucks several times, that being the zx1000, a real power house 1000rms

also, Power Acoustik LT Series, (dont laugh) i thought the same thing, till a friend bought one and i installed it for him, i was singing a different tune when my ears tryed to blead, very good amp, also very cheap, less than fosgate referb cept new... at elast on ebay, dont know about the warenty. alot of brands only warenty products purchased from a cirtified dealer, fosgate, kicker, jbl, and a few outhers i know are like that. (one reason i like referb fosgate, u get the warenty and it comes factory direct)

those would be my recomendations. i know power acoustik has some outher series of amps but i have no expereience with them, i would gues they are just as good though.

good luck

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Posted By: spl144
Date Posted: June 01, 2005 at 4:54 PM
 well allof these are good amps my thought is the sound stream 880.2 you r trying to run subs $279 to your door with 1 year warranty 880 watts continues rms I put one on t 12" JL w3s i was very impressed that power is at 4ohms o ya i dont think there is rods in subs woodland eletronics 218-390-3334

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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: June 01, 2005 at 5:09 PM
wtf?^

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: June 01, 2005 at 6:05 PM
I think he is trying to sell his amp, but the sentences just didnt go together right.       As far as the ZX1000 goes I wouldnt recommend it to any one much like my kx1200 UNLESS they are going to upgrade thier electrical/charging system first.    Both these amps have a draw of 100-150+ amps       not the best for entry level

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Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: June 02, 2005 at 7:38 AM
just buy an extension cord for $10 and plug 'em into the wall. thats cool. not very musical, but cool.




Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: June 02, 2005 at 7:39 AM
hell...then maybe you can let us know  what color the smoke is after the rods go out.




Posted By: No1stunna
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 3:30 PM

"14.4volts x 100amps = 1440watts MAX   considering this is a very high quality amp, which even you said it wasnt.     it might be at the top with amps that are 90% efficent "
Jeff chillcot (sorry if it's spelled wrong) is right. Its a basic electronics equasion-----p=IxE

Meaning power=current times voltage

power being wattage, current being amps, and voltage, well is voltage of course.

but for bosses sake, maybe the amp was tested at 30 volts, and really is 3000 watts.  And 3000 watts to any descent subs is earthshaking, unbearably loud sound with  pressure that is like a shotgun blast to the chest. So that being said, the boss simply isnt capable of any of that and obviously isnt 3000 watts, but it is cheap

also, those ratings may be absolute peak, which is roughly 2xmax output at say 10khz for 1 second, which is about %50 more than dynamic peak, multiplied by .7 is roughly rms, so at 3000 watts, about 1500 is still overrated, and about 800-900 is really  max output, and somewhere around 300-400 watts of true rms, Thats just not enough to really blow the rods, not even on 98 octane.





Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 7:36 AM
preach it.




Posted By: chitownsteve
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 11:28 AM
thanks but tell me modle numbers 4 each amp not justs brands iam getting messed up on all these serches wit no modle num    i dont really do ebay i like real stores new

basicaly what exacty would u get for $300 or under

thanks agin
Hifonics BX1500D lil more expensive but under $300


AudioBahn A8002T $130
Acoustik GOTHIC OV2-1200 $133
Acoustik TS1920-2 $$150
all same price range which one of these better




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 12:16 PM
Steve I can tell you that the Boss PD3000 does not put out 3000 rms watts, but It will put out 700 wrms bridged @2 ohms. That's not 2 bad for a $260 amp. my pick would be jbl they make a very good amp and the price is right. One place you can look too is overstock.com some are refurbs but the have some good prices.

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Posted By: Flexx-Diesel
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 12:20 PM

In case you haven't found an amp yet.....For that price you should check into the Diamond Audio D3 600.1, we retail it at 299.99, it is rated at 600 watts rms at 1 ohm, although I have checked these amps several times and seen well over 800rms. Diamond amps also have a liftime warranty, I do not think that any other car audio amp carries a lifetime. I install these amps quite a bit on 2-4 ten and 12 inch subs and they have plenty of power to run them. I am sure that ebay or some internet sales place will have it cheaper, although internet sales is not authorized.



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Posted By: Flexx-Diesel
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 12:22 PM

Just to add to the previous, the D3600.1 is as powerful rms as the amps you have listed there in your last post. Quality over quantity.



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Posted By: chitownsteve
Date Posted: June 11, 2005 at 11:34 PM
what abot
Acoustik TS1920-2 $$150
or
AudioBahn A8002T $130





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