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Topic: best sub for overall performance

Posted By: youngone
Subject: best sub for overall performance
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 7:53 PM

ive been doing alot of reading on this forum and have not seen a Q/A about the best sub on the market applying to the sq and spl overall. ive hear good things about infinity, jl, kicker, boston, so no. but there is nothing on the overall quality of these subs. also i would like to know what to expect from the different brands and the fairness of the price of them relating to the overall quality and reliability. any info on any brand that has turned out to be good quality that i maybe have not heard of would be much appreciated.

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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
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Posted By: Teslank
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 7:58 PM

i just know that kickers sound alot like "kicking"

go to future shop and listen to the various subs there or go to some sound store.

i like the rockford fosgate subs they have good looks and good sound IMO....

this is just a matter of testing different sub listening to them in your car friends. go to sound / performance shows and talk to the owners...

its just this way you can choose a sub. because some ppl just like kicker others like infinity others pioneer and they all sound very distinc to me and i dont like their sound.

so go see some subs :P





Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 8:10 PM
ya i no what you mean with the kickers they are made for manely for spl and not sq. the solos are quate a bit more loud than normal i gust becuse of there square shape alowing them to displace more air than the more common round shape.

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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 8:10 PM

youngone wrote:

ive been doing alot of reading on this forum and have not seen a Q/A about the best sub on the market applying to the sq and spl overall

That's becasue there really isn't any "perfect" or "best" sub. There is no end all. However there are plenty of subs that can do what you want and do it well. Some of the brands you mentioned are going to fulfill that need.

Like mentioned above. demo products and don't be afraid to spend some time doing this. Be subjective.

A huge factor in all of this is enclosure. How it its constructed and how it sounds in your vehicle.



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Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 8:21 PM
im actully leaning towerds infinity because of there ratings and possetive overall feeback. enybody know about there low rms compared to other brands. also dus enybody know eny other brands that are for around the same prise that produce the same or beter quality. sq is importent but i also would like to have spl to.

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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 8:30 PM

Infinity seems to make a good product, have you looked into similar priced subs, like what's the competition and so on? Have you listened to them yet?

I have personal experience with MTX and Image Dynamic subs. I am really impressed with ID.



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Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: September 28, 2005 at 8:50 PM
no i havent i have gust been going on what other people say about them because i live in north carolina in a rural area and dont have the ability to go and see and hear how they are for myself. and i like talking to people and getting there opinion on the item or subject.

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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
On the12volt you give some info and you get in




Posted By: TruckSystem
Date Posted: September 29, 2005 at 8:13 AM
I've used MTX, various flea market budget brands, and Diamond Audio subwoofers. The Diamonds are the best purchase I have ever made for subs, hence why I bought so much other Diamond stuff afterwards.

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2003 Chevrolet Silverado Standard Cab ~ Alpine CDA-9851
Diamond Audio D3600.1 ~ 2x Diamond Audio TM310D4
Diamond Audio D3400.4 ~ Diamond Audio Hex S600s
AstroStart RS5204 Remote Start/Alarm




Posted By: Bigsingh
Date Posted: September 29, 2005 at 10:38 AM
the idmax is a great woofer for spl and sq along with most the woofers that they make, and so are woofers made by RE, my personal favourite being the xxx. i think that they are quite well priced for the performance and quality they deliver. diamond is also another one of those good sq subs but i wudnt tread anywhere near an mtx, pile of cr*p.  for ur price range i think an RE se wud work out nicely or maybe an ID of similar price, i've had experience with all these including Infinity, these subs wil bury infinities. hav a look round as there arent many RE dealers

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6* Rockford T2's
6* POWER AMPs
BLACK CORRADO
BAANNGGIINN




Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: September 29, 2005 at 12:19 PM

so from what i'm hearing your looking for a well rounded sub. JL W7, would do the trick but there not cheep. take a look at soundstream van gogh's. they can be had for about $180 per sub. www.soundstream.com



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1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700




Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: September 29, 2005 at 9:39 PM
thanks for all the input guys im actuly looking into the Eclipse SW9122 it looks crazzyposted_image there expensive though gota save my pennes. or make alot of money


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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
On the12volt you give some info and you get in




Posted By: spitfireguy1185
Date Posted: September 30, 2005 at 4:52 PM

Phoenix Gold Xenon's are VERY good for the price cause you can get one 12" for about $110 shipped from Sound domain and i have personally used -2- 12" subs in a custom ported box tuned to 30hz (cuz i love the lows) and they knock hard and sound surprisinlgy clean and they got these cool LEDs in the cone too...they are rated at 500w RMS which is underrated and they have huge 175oz. magnets so they can hit those low tones with some force. L5's are also good for the price but they need a huge box to sound good and they are definitely loud but they dont hit low and they only have like 80oz magnets too. 

so check out the Phoenix Gold XENON



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Bass-oholik




Posted By: bajaclawz71
Date Posted: October 01, 2005 at 10:19 PM
I really like my JL 12w6v2.  They sound good, hit hard and, are accurate.  I have a Zapco Reference 1000 powering them too so that helps.




Posted By: nightmare99305
Date Posted: October 02, 2005 at 2:36 PM
I dont know about everyone else but I researched subs til my ears were sore and found that the Alpine Type R subs sound the best to me.  They hit hard, have great clean bass, and rebound fast so they can take multiple bass hits without losing a beat.  but the best thing is that they are not high priced. they are suprisingly low priced for the quality and sound they produce.  I know everyone has a different opinion on subs but if you are looking for a clean, loud, good quality sub at a save your wallet expense, definately check these out.

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Nightmare




Posted By: alpine_king
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 6:02 PM
ive had a few subs in my day, and the mtx's are good bang for the buck. i had a thunder 6000 12 and it held its own. but if you wan good sound quality and good clean bass go with a type r from alpine, these things are tough and can handle alot of power.

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1993 Ford Ranger.
Head Unit.Alpine CDA-9831
Front Speakers.Infinity 6010 Reference Series
Amp.Alpine MRD-M1005
Subs.3 Kicker CVR10
Rear Speakers.SPL CS-573
20" Boss 312's, lowered 3/4




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 6:14 PM
youngone wrote:

thanks for all the input guys im actuly looking into the Eclipse SW9122 it looks crazzyposted_image there expensive though gota save my pennes. or make alot of money

Speaking from experience... YES, that is an INSANE woofer. Excellent output, more power handling than you can shake a stick at, super small enclosure, and fast to boot! Personally, I would place it closer to the SQ side, but it will play loud, as well. Problems? Yes, one problem. POWER HUNGRY BASTARDS! I couldn't get it to do (hardly) ANYTHING with the Eclipse 1100 watt analog amp connected to it, so I promoted that amp to the 6 inch midbass in the doors, and bought the DA7232 for it. Eclipse techs say that amp will do around 1350wpc all day into 4 ohms, which is how it is connected in my system, and that combo'll knock the fillings out of your head. I get people asking me "That's one 12?!?!" If you do use that woofer, plan on needing to power it with about 1500 watts to start!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: alpine_king
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 6:22 PM
thats true, i have a buddy with one of those subs and 2 amps running it and it hits so hard it makes his deck skip. great sub if you have the power and the money.

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1993 Ford Ranger.
Head Unit.Alpine CDA-9831
Front Speakers.Infinity 6010 Reference Series
Amp.Alpine MRD-M1005
Subs.3 Kicker CVR10
Rear Speakers.SPL CS-573
20" Boss 312's, lowered 3/4




Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 7:02 PM
resently though i have bine looking at ma audio and i have found a sub that is alittal cheaper but i dont no there arnt many reviews on it but it looks really noce its a ma audio 12'' hk12x2 it has 1500 rms. the reasen i have become interested in this sub is because i dont want to spend that much money but if it is worth it ill do it. it needs alot biger box but i gess that tells that it is going to hit really low. it also needs a huge port im thinking about doing a slot to eliminate the need to put like 4 ports on the box. i know that everybody is intiteled to there opinion and i would like to hear them if enybody thinks i sould go with the eclipse or the ma or something else could you give me your opinion on it. i now the eclipes is really!!! nice but this ma seams rilly nice to and cheaper. has anybody had one or had an experience with it. i would really like to get your input on this item and anything else to say about the eclipes would be helpful. thank you people im really trying to buy the right thing.   

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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
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Posted By: jsesterly
Date Posted: October 12, 2005 at 3:28 PM

How about some of the others.. ie: Kenwood, Power Acoustik.. sony.. JVC.  The Base where Im stationed is having a tent sale, and they have some of the "cheaper" names on sale big time. I'm looking at 2 10's with an amp for my suburban. They have a few buy the $250(depending on name brand) amp and get 2 free subs.





Posted By: steezs
Date Posted: November 06, 2005 at 12:23 AM
Earthquake dbxr

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THE DUCE




Posted By: steezs
Date Posted: November 06, 2005 at 12:24 AM
Earthquake dbxr

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THE DUCE




Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: November 07, 2005 at 10:26 AM

im not looking for something that is cheapo im looking for a very nice sub that has good responce and a good mix of sq and spl more spl than sq but it is alwasys nice to have some sq. im looking at a sub for my room and have decided to go with a titanic 15'' mkIII it has good responce and is able to hit deep you could also put it in a car if you hafve the space. the specs say that it is a one way xmax and i dont no what that means i gess that it means that it only fires one way.posted_image

Aaron



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Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
On the12volt you give some info and you get in





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