Need some sub ideas

K, I got a hard time deciding between subwoofers. I'm looking for a single subwoofer set-up. I want SQL...but obviously thats...well SQL is a whole nother story because u just can't get the best of both worlds. But I just don't want it to sound like complete crap, but I want it to be competition worthy. I'm looking for something that will be hitting around...145-150db on the TL in the kick. My price range is looking at about 500 dollars or so for a subwoofer. Powering it will be a JBL amp pushin about 1400rms @ 1 or 2 ohms. Originally I had been looking at like RE SX's and what not...but those prices went up ridiculously and I think those are to far out of my price range.
      So now i've turned my attention to Fi because they've been getting crazy reviews and are well priced. I am looking at maybe an 18" BTL?? I'm going between a few subs
18" BTL
15" Soundstream RLP
Those are just the two right now beacuse of what I've heard. My question about the BTL is...from what i've read...it'll get loud enough. But how does it sound? I've heard of it being compared to the MT...
For a daily driver that won't be turned up that loud, what do you guys think?
Lemme know! I probably left out some information, but i'll be glad to fill it in as you ask

retail prices? this could be hard bc that is quite a bit of power for a single woofer.

I'd go with an eclipse SW9122, it can handle some crazy power!

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Or an ED 19Ov.2

That could handle that power

Well I can also run it at 4ohms at 877RMS is was tested at. Its the JBL BP1200.1

the BTL's are rated at 2000rms...
like i was saying, this is hopefully going to be just to get loud for comps and watnot. During daily driving, sometimes I just use my door speakers for bass. I'm not really the kind of person that drives around constantly bumping their subs to everyone. I would just want to be able to crank it up for when the comp in our town comes around. Is this even doable??
obviously I would need two different boxes..but thats not a problem

I just lost a BP1200.1 with a SW9122 due to theft. SWEET combination!!

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Do you have any idea what your eclipse was hitting?? And di you have any problems with the BP running it at 1 ohm??
mine seems to be cutting out whenever i run it at 1 ohm...
like goes into protect mode.

If you're looking to spend $500 or so then the rl-p is not even close to that, you could get two for that much.  You could step up to the rl-s which is more in that price range.  It can handle a ton of power as well.  But if you are looking for a sub for just SPL then there are better routes to go then soundsplinter because these are designed with SQ in mind(although they can get loud).  As far as for "SQL" they are a good choice though.

Well i'm willing to spend up to around 500. Just because I have that much doesn't mean I have to spend it all. As for there RL-S series...they are SVC 4ohms. I wouldnt be able to sufficently power then with my JBL amp @ 4ohms. And to get 2 of them...well thats just to much money. I'm really liking that Fi BTL though. The Eclipse is looking pretty good though to. What are some other ideas out there though?
The CV strokers maybe? The Rockford T2's look nice, but after owning several sub-par cheap rockfor subs, I haven't been looking at them that strongly. Some guy in our local competition had 2 15" T2's and hit a 149.7 TL in an Eclipse. What would be a comparable subwoofer?

I had a dual 4ohm woofer. it was running at about 1.9ohms. No sweat!

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Are you more concerned about numbers or SQ?

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Regarding SPL...that will be determined more by how you build your enclosure. You can get the best sub made, but won't hit crap SQ or SPL wise unless the enclosure is built to suit and tuned correctly.

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Yea, i realize that. But i also need somewhat of a halfway decent subwoofer. Currently right now i am just running some CV V-Max's...those aren't going to get as loud as an RE MT or something like that. I'm mainly going for SPL with this one, but I want something so that when i take it out of the SPL box and place it into a daily driver. I realize how crucial the build is for an SPL competition. Thats how people hitting like 145 with a single 15" Type R. I'm not that good though. I need a little bit of a crutch to help me get higher numbers, :P
Do you know what numbers you were hitting with the eclipse?

I also forgot to mention...has anyone had any luck with the Kicker CVX's?? I've listened to them very briefly only in a test tone sweep, and they were loud to me. But i have no idea how they sound on daily driving for music and watnot

I agree with the Eclipse SW9122 4ohm DVC (eventually I'll have several). It's rated 750RMS 1500Peak. The JBL BP1200.1 will give you around 1000RMS, which is a good match for that sub.

BTW, the Eclipse will run 2ohms to the amp so you shouldn't have any problems with it cutting out or clipping.

If you're looking for a more mid-level setup, you might consider the 1200.1 and 2 RF Punch HX2's (4ohm DVC). I installed that setup for a coworker and he was highly impressed.

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The titanium Eclipse SW9122 needs a monster and I mean monster slot port box in order to get loud properly. While it is a amazing subwoofer and is always on my short list of subs to recommend to a customer interested in above average tonal response. The ideal application for this sub is in a nice 2 cubic foot sealed box that can keep this puppy under control. The SPL #'s that you are looking for to me dictate a single 12" or even 15" driver that presents it's load at the stable output of your amplifier. That being 2 ohms more than likely. I would really consider a DD3515 or DD3512 for this application. They are a known solid performer in the lanes and are easily capable of hitting the numbers you are after in most but not all applications.

www.ddaudio.com

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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.

For the eclipse, doesn't eclipse rate them per voice coil?? Or have i just been reading these things wrong. Do you guys have any prices of the DD series off the top of your head?
Sounds like so far the subs i'm down to are...
Kicker 15" CVX
Rockford T2 15"
Fi 18" BTL
DD 3515
Eclipse Ti 12"
Fi 15" Q
RL-P 15"

...thats about all that I got for now
I've heard some amazing things with those DD's though
I'm guessing all of these would be able to hit similiar dB levels. What one would sound the best out of these? In a normal daily driver box of whatever looks acoustically best on WinISD, not a comp box.

I put two 12" Fi Q's in a Tahoe last week and ran about 1200wrms to each of them. Phenomenal SQ and a ground pounder for sure. For a daily with some thump, I vote Fi Q....

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...

Eclipse subs are rated using combined voice coils, as are pretty much all subs in the industry. So, in the case of the SW9122, 750w rms shared between both coils. DD subs I am a CDN authorized dealer for, the US pricing will be cheaper. You neeed to track down a US dealer for pricing. Fi, well, I can't tell you too much about other than they are another bunch of me too's (and former me too's) that went out on their own and have just started making equipment, more than likely by choosing parts out of a catalog which is all too common these days. This does not mean that the product is inferior at all, I would take a wait and see approach to see if the line is still here in another year or not (which is also way too common these days).

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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.